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Interesting, David. Requires a lot of discussion. For those of who have joined the latest anti-development wing of "Marxism" called "anti-productivism", one should consider this. What does it mean "after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly". I remember Socialist Action member and writer at a forum 5 or years ago slamming her fist down on the table at the top of her voice stating "we have to understand that we USE TOO MUCH!". I applaud, however, the more enlightened ecosocialist blogs that have discussed this to some degree...the seeming contradiction between escaping commodity production (in the modern 'consumerist' form that IS detrimental to the planet) and the perspective of all of historical Marxism to *increase* the productive forces under socialism so we can march toward communism. David _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com