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Nowhere in the reprinted Counterpunch article by Alexander Cockburn on the SPLC is it mentioned that it engaged in spying. That the Anti-Defamation League did, there can be no doubt. How much can the German Communist Party of the Weimar Republic be blamed for Hitler's rise to power, really?. It was a Social Democrat, Gustav Noske, who organized the Freikorps into a death squad that assassinated Rosa Luxembourg and Karl Liebknicht. Did the Weimar Social Democrats ever reach out to the KPD to form an anti-Nazi coalition? Should the KPD have trusted the Social Democrats given its then-recent past for which it did not apologize? On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:28 AM, John Obrien via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > I must take issue with this "How Should We Protest Neo-Nazis" article for > two reasons > > (I prefer to defeat them not just protest them) > > > First the moderator describes the Southern Poverty Law Center as "a civil > rights advocacy organization". > > For those with memories, this group was revealed as spying on left groups > and providing names etc. to > > the Anti-Defamation League (their main sponsor) who then turned that > information over to both the > > governments of Israel and the United States. The head of the SPLC Morris > Dees is no leftist and made > > millions of dollars as the SPLC paid staff! Their board has militarists > and corporatists and wealthy lawyers. > > The SPLC is an anti-left Zionist organization that serves the state of > Israel and spies on the left. > > > Second, how the Nazis actually came to power and to insinuate it was > because of people in Germany were > > physically fighting the Nazis that had aided them - is nonsense and > re-writing history. The fascists first > > came to power in Hungary and then Italy and Hitler came later. Hitler came > to power because of the > > Krupps, U. S. Senator Prescott Bush and other capitalists funding them, > who feared Germany would > > have a socialist revolution. > > > The liberals and conscious agents of the bourgeoisie such as the SPLC, > avoid the class issues and > > why and how the fascists came to power in many nations in Europe in the > 20th Century following > > the horrendous effects of WWI. The failure of the German Communist Party > with its own large > > organized militias to not even physically fight the Nazis and melt away > when Hitler enacts his > > dictatorial rule, is also a reason for the Nazis rule, as well as their > categorizing the social democrats > > (SPD) as "social fascists" and failing to unite to fight the Nazis. Leon > Trotsky work: The Struggle > > Against Fascism in Germany (second edition, page 192) has him correctly > write: By ignoring the > > specific nature of fascism, the will to fight against it becomes > inevitably paralyzed. > > > Fascists do not abide by "majority rule" or have respect for the views of > others. They seek power and > > to crush all they oppose - and fear. > > > To ignore fascists rallies and protests is a mistake. They need to be > challenged and isolated - and > > the recent mobilization in Boston was a great example of how to > successfully do that, in mobilizing > > broad sections of the working class and disempowering and isolating the > fascists. > > > The United States has had many fascists groups in its history - the Klan, > Silver Shirts, Gerald Smith, > > Father Coughlin etc. As a Gay activist I had to deal with many fascist > groups - and this includes many > > sections of the right wing evangelists. > > > The fascists want to terrorize, cause fear and make opponents immobilized > and isolated, to oppose them. > > They operate like the board game 'GO' created in Japan, that is all about > pushing forward to grab > > space and isolate one's opponent to surrender and conquer. Fascists are > not intent on being a > > polite debating society. Their intent is to destroy all opposition - > including murdering us. > > > Relying on the Southern Poverty Law Center is a serious mistake. The left > needs to have their > > own organizations to oppose fascists and not trust those who favor > capitalist rule. Putting ones > > trust and hopes in the capitalist state or groups like the SPLC, that view > the left as the enemy, > > is an error - and reflects more on how the fascists came to power in > Europe in the 20th Century. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > . > > > In the court of public opinion, accusations of mayhem and chaos in the > streets will, as a rule, tend to stick against the left, not the right. > > This was true in Germany in the 1920s. It was true even when opponents > of fascism acted in self-defense or tried to use relatively mild > tactics, such as heckling. It is true in the United States today, where > even peaceful rallies against racist violence are branded riots in the > making. > > Today, right extremists are going around the country staging rallies > just like the one in 1927 in Wedding. According to the civil rights > advocacy organization the Southern Poverty Law Center, they pick places > where they know antifascists are present, like university campuses. They > come spoiling for physical confrontation. 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