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Facebook post by Meredith Tax: "A lot of commentary on Franken's resignation seems to pit short term losses (we have lost a bulldog in the Senate) vs longterm moral and credibility gains (Dems capturing the high ground from which we can criticize the dogs in the GOP). The problem is, the high road can't be constructed as a two lane highway. The cesspool of the #Metoo revelations--and not only them-- shows the need for a sweeping moral rejuvenation in US politics. What concerns me is that the sexual part of this questioning has gotten separated from the other moral questions we need to be mobilizing around, those pointed to by the new Poor People's Campaign being led by Rev. Barber: King's “triple evils” of racism, poverty and militarism, plus the threat to the planet. My question: why isn't sexism also on this list? It is essential for all of us who say #Metoo to make sure that the perpetrators of the sexist power games that have defined so much of our own lives be halted, interrogated, and called to account. But this fight needs be integrated with the fights against racism, poverty, militarism and planetary destruction. Unless we all start dealing with the whole shebang, we are going to be repeating the same pattern that has deformed previous US social movements, where feminists end up being in charge of sexual morality and guys in charge of everything else. We already know where that leads." On Dec 8, 2017 11:30 PM, "Mark Lause" <[email protected]> wrote: > Excellent. Exactly the kind of voices we aren't hearing on the idiot box. > > On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Fred Murphy via Marxism < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** >> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. >> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. >> ***************************************************************** >> >> Listen to the second half of the 12/7 podcast with Liza Featherstone and >> Jane McAlevey - >> http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html#S171207 >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Mark Lause via Marxism < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** >> > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >> > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. >> > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. >> > ***************************************************************** >> > >> > What's complicated is precisely that it's being treated as something >> very >> > different than you and I would describe . . . as something that the >> media >> > and the great institutions are going to fix. They won't. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Jeff <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > On 2017-12-08 21:59, Mark Lause via Marxism wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > >> The sex scandals are a complex development. >> > >> >> > > >> > > Let's see. For years women were abused but felt isolated, powerless, >> that >> > > they wouldn't be believed (and often weren't), would face >> retributions, >> > > would lose civil suits in court, and had much more to lose than gain >> by >> > > going public. With Bill Cosby for instance finally being exposed and >> > going >> > > down, followed by other celebrities and politicians, women gained >> > > confidence, spoke out, and gave more confidence to other victims to do >> > the >> > > same. The flood gates opened. >> > > >> > > What's so complex about that? >> > > >> > > - Jeff >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________ >> > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm >> > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/ >> > options/marxism/fred.r.murphy%40gmail.com >> > >> _________________________________________________________ >> Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm >> Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/opt >> ions/marxism/markalause%40gmail.com >> > > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
