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I agree with John on this in general. When I see things like "Stop blaming workers for Trump" what I see is "I want to really think about what's happening in the world." "Of course," if some comfortable middle class liberal is blaming "workers" for Trump, that's stupid, but analysis that focused on rebutting what a few liberals that lack influence think is not really an analysis. On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 5:45 AM John Reimann via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > Without commenting on the psychological aspects of this article, I will > comment on another aspect: The widely reported studies that show that the > income bracket for Trump voters tends to be higher than that for Clinton > voters. Supposedly, this shows that workers did not support Trump. This is > an example of how statistics can be so misused. > > In the first place, the $50,000 cutoff bracket proves nothing whatsoever. > There are millions of workers who make well over that. Likewise, there are > petit bourgeois who make less. > > Second, regardless of where one sets the bracket, this is a perfect > example of how statistics can misrepresent a general phenomenon. That’s > because the overwhelming majority of black and also of Latino voters voted > for Clinton, and their incomes tend to be way lower than white incomes. So, > the class differentiation is mixed with the racial/ethnic differentiation. > > Nor is it just low wage white workers in the South who voted for Trump. > I’ve discussed both online and in person with white construction workers - > union workers - who voted for Trump and who support him to this day. > > Let’s face it, nearly 75 years of tamping down class consciousness, of > struggling to ostracize working class militants within the unions, of > struggling to eliminate (as nearly as possible) the best fighting > traditions of the labor movement — this has had an effect on the > consciousness of millions of US workers. No, I’m not saying that the US > working class is not the potentially revolutionary force in US society. But > there are deep problems and confusions - to which the Workers World has > contributed! To start to fix a problem, we first have to recognize it. > > John Reimann > > Sent from my iPad > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/jasonh99%40gmail.com _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
