Surely and was not patriotic rhetoric used by the Communards in 1871 as it
related to the Prussians and the Versailles regime?
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:37:32 +0300
> From: dgn.g...@googlemail.com
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Rape is not necessarily a consequence of war
> To: t...@hotmail.com
>
> "The Great Patriotic War"
>
> this expression has been referred to many times, probabily as a critique of
> the strategy of the Soviet Union.
> Below there is a passage from Engels' Speeches in Ebersfelde in which he
> ackonledges this. From various writings and letters of Marx and Engels I
> know that they reject to rely on the concept of patriotism as long as the
> proletariat fights for taking the power. But if it comes into power, Engels
> seems to imply, then it has to defend a real fatherland. This is however not
> valid for the relationship among communist nations. It may only be necessary
> if a communist society is attacked by "anti-communist nations". The
> statement of Engels may give us some toughts about what happened in Soviet
> Union.
>
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