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I am not sure it shoudl any surprise that a representative pof the Workers Party from Brazil is not infavour of sociism and not in favour of a new international organisation based on advancing the international struggle for socialism. For this reason, the PT rep did not support Chavez's call. The Brazilian delegate was arguing *against* a new international, and in favour of simply continuing with existing groups like the Sao Paulo Forum — largely a grouping for the moderate left these days in LA. Chavez's argument in calling for it was explicitely directed *against* the argument of those like the PT in favour of merely an anti-imperialist front. As the article on Links says, after the PT reps speech, "Chavez’s speech that night marked a dividing line ... The conditions ar eripe for socialism, he said". The calll for the Fifth Socialist International,whatever may be said about it, what ever problems anyone may have with this or that or who is in it, was explicetly, and undeniably called for by Chavez *in answer to* and *counterposed to* those arguing that merely an anti-imperialist front would suffice. The special resolution on the issue that came ou of this conference (which was not the launching of the Fiftih Socialist International, merely a confernece at which Chavez issued the call and said they would work towards a conference next year), said this: "The international encounter of Left-wing Political parties held in Caracas on November 19, 20 and 21, 2009, received the proposal made by Commander Hugo Chavez Frias to convoke the Fifth Socialist International as a space for socialist-oriented parties, movements and currents in which we can harmonize a common strategy for the struggle against imperialism, the overthrow of capitalism by socialism and solidarity based economic integration of a new type. “We assessed that proposition in terms of its historical dimension which calls for a new spirit of internationalism and agreed, for the purpose of achieving it in the short term, to create a WORKING GROUP comprised of those socialist parties, currents and social movements who endorse the initiative, to prepare an agenda which defines the objectives, contents and mechanisms of this global revolutionary body. “We call for an initial constitutive event for April 2010 in the City of Caracas. Furthermore, those parties, socialist currents and social movements who have not expressed themselves on this matter can subject this proposal to the examination of their legitimate directive bodies.” http://links.org.au/node/1375 ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com