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On 4/23/2010 6:01 PM, Mark Lause wrote: > I wrote. > > 1. I don't see how building something now would prevent people from > forming other currents with other leaderships that may well represent > their approach to the class struggle with as much legitimacy as does > this unitary party.... > > 2. You say "party" in a way that makes me wonder if we're talking > about the same thing. You seem to be saying that we can start > something now--in the current political situation--and make it a > "party" by calling it one... What does the term mean for you and your > tradition within the movement? > > 3. More fundamentally, the plethora of organizations and kinds of > organizations legitimately reflects the complexity of the working > class and the efforts of different parts of it to express their > concerns.And, if we are really agreed on the idea that the working > class needs to organize itself politically, how can we object to it > doing so in ways other than one particular "party"? > > To which Christian replied, "Sorry, but your first three reasons seem > to me frivolous and a bit self-centered. Whom do you presume to speak > for, comrade?" > > Recognizing that class self-organization is a complex question is > hardly "frivolous," and asking someone else's opinion is hardly > "self-centered." I hardly began to do so when Christian demands, > "whom do you presume to speak for comrade?" (This he does, without > providing the information for himself that he demands for > others....well, who's surprised?) My answer is that I'm an individual > Marxist who's thought about these things for decades...and was asked > my personal views on the subject. "I agree that it would be more convenient." "It would certainly by nice not to have to know the names of so many groups." This is what seems frivolous. Two reasons, actually, not three. ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
