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Comrade Waistline wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism] Is this a Trotskyist list, Or what limits <<"Whether or not Trotsky had political connections with German fascism or not is irrelevant to the practical stirrings of our proletariat. Let's leave the issue of Trotsky to the side as irrelevant. Interestingly you mention the IWW and I was scheduled to speak at their May Day forum in Michigan, which was rained out. The IWW was and remains the most noble of our indigenousness anarcho syndicalist movements. I have a soft spot for the historic political syndicalism. Marxism can and will merge - rather than coexist in an uneasy alliance, with the historic anarcho syndicalist movement as the material logic and motion of transition from industrial unionism to a post industrial form of workers combinations. Ideological syndicalism is another matter, precisely because it is ideology. The economic legs of the anarcho syndicalist movement has been kicked from up under them by the advance of history as the revolution in the means of production.">> Completely, totally agree. Save for last sentence. While I do agree with the statement above: " Ideological syndicalism is another matter, precisely because it is ideology, " I must contest the implicit idea in the comrade's blanket dismissal of syndicalism (esp. as tactic) as in the last sentence. Should the revolutionary organiztion gain the trust of and identification with the people, class-conscious organizations of a syndicalist bent can, must and will aid in the fashioning of "a post industrial form of workers combinations". Proletarian self-help perhaps in, say, the starting of a carpet cleaning business, can, ought and will both supply the comrade customers with a service at less than the 'business' rate (no advertising, no boss to pay off, no taxes) while providing the providers of the service with income free of capitalist encumbrances (surplus-value, taxes). There are a multitude of such services to, by and for each other that we can provide. Such 'working cells' of an organization can deepen class consciousness within their clients and within themselves, and all this, with their work. There is nothing, however, in the immediately above that in any way challenges or contradicts the sentiments in the comrade's vision of a left unifying itself, for the first time, at long last. JAI RAC-LA ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: [email protected] Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
