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Lüko, he who, besides being a liar, knows who dead people have in mind, apparently can't tell his own ass from that of a horse. He writes: "All the more astonishing that you refuse the content of what you wrote above, namely that the only path to a socialist revolution goes via the struggle for national liberation, for national independence and unity, or its preservation, for the _national_ control over the productive resources of the country instead of subjugating it to foreign powers, be it via military occupation, direct colonial rule, or neo-colonialist exploitation via the workings of the law of value, the unequal exchange and all that. These interests of national independence and unity are common interests of the working classes, and the national bourgeoisie of oppressed nations, an interest limited on the bourgeois side by fears of the working classes, thus often preferring to link their fate with those of the foreign oppressor" Get that? The interest of national independence and unity are the COMMON INTEREST of the working class AND the national bourgeoisie of oppressed nations [emphasis added]. This is an old bit of chicanery, the old class collaboration justification that has worked so well in the interests of the working class, the poor rural producers, the oppressed throughout the world, from China in 1927, to the Palestine of Arafat, to the Chile of Allende, to the Argentina of Peron 1 and Peron 2, to the Angola of today, and... it works so well today in an advanced country where it takes the form of "common interests" against the "ultra-right," etc. etc Ah yes, common interests of the working classes and the national bourgeoisie, I'm sure that's exactly what other dead guys had in mind when they were writing about class struggle, "not a farthing for this government" [that being the government of Bismarck and the socialists there who mouthed and mumbled the similar specious crap about commonality of interest], and the fact that the importance of the national independence struggle in Poland was that it demonstrated that the national struggle could not be abstracted from the historical conditions surrounding that struggle, could not be isolated from the struggle for democracy and for the emancipation of an oppressed class. Lüko is definitely the type Engels had in mind when he wrote about those socialists who supported the anti-socialism of Bismarck. I know because old Fred told me that at the seance table the other night, when I was holding hands with the ghosts of Rosa, Karl, and the workers executed throughout the period of the mullahs' rule. There's a social struggle going on in Iran based on the DIFFERENT, OPPOSED interests of the working class and the theocracy, the mullahs, based on the needs of the theocracy, the mullahs for accumulation in OPPOSITION to the needs of the rural and urban poor, the workers for developing organizations of self-emancipation. That development of those organizations of that self-emancipation needs freedom of speech, association, assembly-- those needs that are COMMON to the oppressed, the exploited, the discontented-- those freedoms that the mullahs already has and will maintain in OPPOSITION to the poor, the exploited, the workers. Certainly, the US [and its allied predator bourgeoisie from its allied predators] bourgeoisie wants to destroy the government of Iran-- it wants to do so for its own, bourgeois reasons. Those are not the reasons, and the actions of those who demand the end to the arrest and execution of workers; an end to thug attacks on demonstrators, etc. All Lüko's posing and posturing about "my" predator country [as opposed to what? his predator country? or other predator countries that aren't quite so eager to jump on the "sanction Iran" bandwagon?] is simply an attempt to avoid the issues, since the socialists who oppose the theocracy's suppression of the demonstrations, oppose it's anti-socialist laws and thugs, also oppose any intervention by the US, Israel, or lesser predator nations. Lüko wants to establish COMMONALITY of interests everywhere where there is no such commonality. He wishes it existed in Iran between the bourgeoisie and the workers. And he wishes he could dupe others into believing there exists a commonality of interests between the imperialist bourgeoisie's aggression against the theocracy and the socialist defense of the demonstrators, defense of the primary needs of socialism. But that horse doesn't have wings and can't fly. And its ass is behind its head. Lüko's head is up his. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lüko Willms" <lueko.wil...@t-online.de> ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
