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Both these e earlier eepressions, of course, led not to socialist revolution, or even to strong left movements. Rather, both were essentially processes that led to the renewal of capitalism -- essentially bursts of what we call "imperialism" but which were in any case expansions of capitalism into new areas of the world. (Two great revolutions, the Russiand and the Chinesee, occurred in those new areas, and both (I would say) expanded greatly our sense of human possibility. But there was never any question, looking backkwared, on either of those revolutions establsihing socialist regimes. Capitalism was still far too strong on a global level. Neoliberalism (or "globalism") can be seen, among other ways, of simply 'completing' the expansion of capitalism into the whole world that these two revolutions had, in fact, begun. I am NOT "criticizing" _either_ of those great revolutions. They are only to be hailed as episodes of human glory. We can learn from them, not by niggling criticiism of their supposed "errors" but by focusing on what they did right. No conceivable change of theory or policy on the part of their leaderscould have built actual socialist regimes in the 20th-c. No one 'beytrayed' them. Carrol ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com