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I want to respect Renato´s decission not to post on the "dictatorship/not dictatorship" issue. But there is something I still don´t understand. What is Renato´s take on the ban that the 1964 regime put on the most representative politician of the moment? He suggests that the difference between Brazil and the USA is that while in the former the ban is previous to politics, in the latter the ban takes place after politics, that is through direct murder of the incumbent. Does Renato, honestly, believe that even if it were demonstrated out of any shadow of doubt that the murder of JFK was the result of a conspiracy (I am not giving my own take on this, not here), the difference in method has no impact on the political life of the country? As to torture applied to Brazilian prison inmates: yes, it exists today and it should be a matter of interest to any serious revolutionary in Brazil, as it should, shame on us too, to any serious revolutionary in Argentina. But, and this is my question, aren´t "routine" torture as a means of social coercion and systematic torture used as a means of political represssion qualitatively different? El 27/09/2010 09:52 p.m., Louis Proyect escribió: > ====================================================================== > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > ====================================================================== > > > This is my last post on this subject. I do not think that the military > regime was any tiny bit less heinous than a dictatorship, but I do not > think it was a dictatorship, as it offered the political means to its > own demise. ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com