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S.A. said:" do that independently of endorsing, supporting Correa, his government, his program, and his.... class. In fact in all the analogies offered-- Allende, Kerensky and the PRG, Zelaya, MNR -- it was made clear that mobilization against reaction could, or would be successful in the long run only if it was organized from such a position of independence." Thanks, Sartie, indeed, the independent organized working masses defending a democratically elected government, no matter how capitalist to the core, against right wing reaction that would prevent the organized masses from operating openly is, of course, the way to "be successful in the long run" and I would add in the short run as well. I may have no illusions in any actual or fake progressive government that remains the maintainer of the capitalist state, but it does not prevent me from knowing the defense of democratic rights and of the working class to continue its struggle for power when I see it--even if such a defense must involve the defense of a "revolutionary democrat" or even a capitalist "left" politician. As Greg so willingly raises, I am ignorant of the details of Ecuador but I am certainly willing to learn and observe the nature of any leader "left", "democratic", or "anti-imperialist". I'm just not willing to oppose him in the streets with right wing reaction on the line; as I seem to gather that neither do you. I'll grant that we may have major disagreements on the nature of "leaders", but I believe we share the common view that it is not "leaders" that are important, but the masses and their aspirations for, as you like to put it, "emancipation" that leaders may well or not so well represent. Maybe we're getting somewhere? ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
