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I generally agree with both Sartesian and Greg on Ecuador. But here I disagree him. IF there was a succesful coup against Correa we not only would oppose the coup we would be in the forefront of demanding his return to office. The democratic will of the majority of Ecuadoreans who voted for him based on *their* interests must be defended unconditionally. Honduras is a prime example of this...the masses themselves defined the ONE demand the Imperialists wouldn't compromise or negotiate: the return of Zelaya. There seems to be a general lack of understanding by Sartesian on the issue of democracy and democratic demands. Revolutionaries do not define what these demands are. We can refine them, nuance them, support them, but the people march and mobilize, indeed, they FIGHT for the demands THEY raise, not parties who barely exist or don't exist at all (Marxmail as a 'party', for example). As Marxists we may understand all the limit of capitalist democracy, but that is how all these revolutions *start*. How they end up is likely up to the conscious revolutionaries to put forward an analysis and program to organize the masses to complete *their* democratic revolution, that is, to its *only* successful conclusion. Sartesian *seems* to dismiss this. It is mistake, in my comradely opinion. We don't stand aside from those democratic impulses, we champion, lead and are the best fighters for them. Period. David ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
