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I admit to a prejudice against Hobsbawm based on his writings on Ireland. But this stuff on that crop of right wing vipers, the Milliband brothers, is simply sickening. The great old Irish insult of 'moderate' springs instantly to mind. *Hobsbams: Well, as a father, he [ Ralph] obviously couldn't help but be rather proud. He would certainly be much to the left of both of his sons. I think that Ralph was really identified for most of his life with dismissing the Labour party and the parliamentary route – and hoping that somehow it would be possible that a proper socialist party could come into being... None the less, I think Ralph would certainly have hoped for something much more radical than his sons have so far looked like doing * How could anyone think that there was anything but the deepest shame possible over the kind of politics the Milliband Brothers have pushed and will push? But Hobsbawm is old and has grown into respectability and golden opinions. All while the working class suffer the most brutal attacks. comradely Gary ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com