(Another Marxist approach the same article on Pen-L.) 
 
WL. 
 
 
On 2011-01-13, at 10:56 AM, Jim Devine wrote: 
 
Julio Huato: Opinions on this piece? 
 
_http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2011/01/17/110117ta_talk_surowiecki
_ 
(http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2011/01/17/110117ta_talk_surowiecki)  
 
Reply 
 
 
Unfortunately, it isn't that accurate, except with respect to what everyone 
 already knows: that a majority of Americans are hostile to unions. But  
Surowiecki, like many liberals and radicals, including myself until recently,  
gilds the lily with respect to public support for unions under the New 
Deal.  While it remains true that a majority of Americans, unlike today, 
supported the  right to organize unions and to strike, a central tenet of 
Surowiecki's piece -  that "the general public applauded labor’s new power, 
even in 
the face of union  tactics that many Americans frowned on, like sit-down 
strikes" is very  misleading. 
 
In a fascinating and what I regard as a groundbreaking paper published last 
 August, “Public Opinion, Organized Labor, and the Limits of New Deal 
Liberalism,  1936–1945”, two UCal Berkeley political scientists, Eric Schickler 
and Devin  Caughey -  examined more than 400 polls by Gallup and others, 
including  more than 200 questions relating to trade unionism, and found that 
most  Americans in that period not only "frowned" on the "illegal" sit-down 
strikes,  but supported state intervention to end them, were more sympathetic 
to employer  demands for what we today call "right to work" laws than the 
closed or union  shop,  and favoured stripping the new CIO unions of their 
wartime strike  rights and drafting strikers into the army. 
 
Surowiecki undoubtedly drew on the paper for his article. If so, he should  
have known that the "more than seventy per cent of those surveyed in a 1937 
 Gallup poll", on which he rests his claim about mass support for "labor's 
power"  under the New Deal, was a result recorded a year earlier, in July 
1936 - BEFORE  the sit-down strikes in the auto plants in the cold winter of 
1936-37. This is a  rather egregious error. Prior to the strikes, a stunning 
76% responded  affirmatively to the question, "are you in favor of labour 
unions?" But, as  Schickler and Caughey report, in the 1937 Gallup poll, AFTER 
the strikes and the  strike wave which it unleashed in other heavy 
industries, "half of the  respondents reported that their views had changed; of 
these, 70% claimed to be  more negative towards unions than they had been six 
months earlier." During the  sitdowns, polls showed a majority of Americans, 
particularly in the Southern  states, favoring the use of force to end them. 
A minority of unionized workers,  the unemployed, and the unskilled - those 
who had a real material stake in the  outcome - were notably opposed. 
 
Schickler and Caughey also observe correctly that the closed shop was (and  
remains) "a major concern for unions since the open shop would undermine 
their  ability to gain and maintain a substantial membership base across 
industries.  But here too poll results indicated that even during the New Deal 
"a 
healthy  majority of the public opposed both the closed and union shop and 
instead  favored the open shop". They continue: "Public concern about union 
power and  tactics continued throughout the war years. For example, across a 
range of polls  from 1941 to 1945, more than 70% of respondents supported 
banning strikes in war  industries. In April 1944, 68% supported drafting 
strikers, with just 22%  opposed and 10% undecided. These data suggest "that 
the 'no strike' pledge made  by union leaders following Pearl Harbor, while 
criticized by some observers for  taming shop-floor activism (Glaberman, 1980; 
Lichtenstein, 1987), may well have  been a necessary concession to a 
hostile public and Congress". 
 
The paper is accessible at: 
_http://web.me.com/devin.caughey/Site/Research_files/SchicklerCaugheyLaborOpinion.pdf_
 
(http://web.me.com/devin.caughey/Site/Research_files/SchicklerCaugheyLaborOpinion.pdf)
  
 
I would encourage everyone to read it in full, not only for its detailed  
exhumation of public attitudes to trade unionism, but also to the New Deal in 
 general. This passage in particular caught my eye: 
 
"Taken as a whole, our results suggest two ways in which the contours of  
public opinion posed obstacles to a social democratic agenda in the late 
1930s  and 1940s. First, the survey evidence suggests that at an abstract 
level, 
there  was widespread skepticism towards further bold domestic policy 
innovations in  both the South and non-South after 1937. Second, organized 
labor—
arguably the  key constituency for further liberal innovation—was itself on 
the defensive with  respect to the public and the Congress. The erosion in 
support for unions was  especially sharp in the South, where the CIO 
threatened the region’s system of  racial apartheid as well as Southern elites’ 
strategy of low-wage  industrialization. But labor policy also divided Northern 
Democrats, thus  providing Republicans with a potent campaign issue and 
paving the way for  conservative successes in reining in the labor movement. 
 
"At the same time, the survey data also underscore why Republicans’  
electoral success would ultimately depend upon their accepting substantial  
elements of the New Deal state. Although support for rolling back labor unions  
was widespread, so too was support for many key pillars of the nascent welfare 
 state. From the start, Social Security enjoyed broad popularity, as did 
many  other New Deal economic programs. This simultaneous support for 
individual New  Deal programs and for paring back the New Deal state seems to 
be a 
manifestation  of the well-known regularity that specific governmental 
programs tend to be more  popular than is government in the abstract (e.g., 
Free & 
Cantril, 1968;  Stimson, 2004)." 
 
Sound familiar? Apart from the sharp decline in public support for trade  
unionism, which of course is not insignificant, nothing much else has 
changed;  most Americans who have no first-hand knowledge or experience of 
unions  
uncritically endorse, as in most other cases, the propaganda and policies of 
the  bourgeois state: in this case, that unions be allowed to exist so long 
as they  accept to remain shackled and largely ineffectual. Most Americans 
also continue  to stubbornly support the welfare state reforms introduced by 
the New Deal while  attacking big government in the abstract, checking the 
efforts of both  Republicans and, to a lesser extent, Democrats, to roll 
these back. 
 
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