Comrades,
I must confess that this
discussion has been throughout too pedantic and mechanical for my liking. We can
never be Marxists if our theorisation takes as its base only what Marx or Engels
or Lenin or others have written in their books without relating the same to the
practical problems of the revolution that require a solution. In any case, in
the hope that this will not lead to more mastication of the living theory of
Marxism-Leninism, I try to put forward my objections to Com. Alan's
premises.
At the outset I must confess
that though I had started off by reading this thread of discussion seriously, I
got overwhelmed by the theoretical intensity of the debate and have not read
Com. Dover's elucidation of the contradiction between the manifesto and the
"preface". My objection however is to the fact that com. Dover seems
to feel that the very fact that the socialist countries retreated shows that
they were never "socialist" in the first place. As he poses the
question "That is, could the socialist mode of production be overthrown by
a decadent class from a
previous epoch of society, and their moribund epoch of social production be restored? The obvious answer to this latter must be an emphatic no, on the basis of the dialectical and materialist conception of history." What is the point Alan? Are
you saying that a more advanced form of society can never be overrun by a more
primitive form? Then what have you to say about the Huns who overran the Roman
empire? Or of the Aryans who overran the Dravidian city states of Mohenjo-daro
and Harrappa in India? Or of the enthronement of William of Orange more than 50
years after the Cromwellian parliamentary revolution in England? history is
replete with such instances of a more primitive peoples destroying a more
advanced civilisation.
The fact is that history
never moves in a straight line. Even Giambattista Vico a precursor to the
Marxian concept that history is not a mere series of accidents had recognised
this fact. The first bourgeois revolution (Cromwell's) had to wait for
over a hundred years before the next occurred (the American and the French)
during which time it suffered many reverses. Even there it would not be accurate
to describe the Cromwellian revolution as the "first" bourgeois
revolution. There were precursors to it upto a thousand years ago such as the
Gupta empire in India and many other nascent burgs in Europe. I am not saying
that they were developed capitalist societies but did embody to some extent the
dictatorship of the mercantile class (More or less like the Paris Commune in
relation to socialism). Even after the French and American revolutions, it took
over another hundred years before the capitalist system could finally defeat
feudalism on a world scale and become a world system around the early 1900s. The
Bonapartist period in France could be seen as a setback to the Bourgeois
revolution there.
On the one hand we can expect
that the transition from capitalism to socialism the world over will take a
smaller time. However, the Bourgeoisie and the Proletariat are the first classes
in history to have a knowledge of science and therefore to be able to advance
their tools, organisation, instruments and weapons at a much faster pace than
ever known in hitherto history. Therefore it would be unwise to draw a time
scale for the ultimate victory of socialism on the basis of the time taken by
earlier societies to overcome their precursors.
As things stand today, the
gap between the first socialist state (I insist on calling it that!) and the
next revolution was a mere 30 years or so. By the early fifties, around 1/3rd of
the world's population and 1/4th of its land mass was under the dictatorship of
the proletariat. It is true that the next 50 years have seen us retreat. It is
equally true that we must seek the reasons for such retreat. However, that is
another story.
Comrade, when you seem to say
that the USSR was never socialist, I think you move from the realm of harmless
speculation to the realm of revisionism. You are depriving the conscious working
class of its most potent weapon to fight the ennui and hopelessness that
Imperialism and its active media seek to daily thrust upon us. You remove the
one strand of proof that provides hope that an alternative is possible.
Otherwise the most common argument for not struggling against the system is
"There is no alternative." There is no alternative to the IMF-WB-WTO.
There is no alternative to imperialism. There is no alternative to Tories or
Labour. There is no alternative to Democrats or Republicans. etc.
To my mind socialism means
the dictatorship of the proletariat. It encompasses within itself many different
types of societies with a larger or lesser degree of bourgeois right. Social
conditions in different places may require the pursuit of different policies for
building up socialism. That by itself will not make a state or a society more or
less socialist. Dictatorship of the proletariat can only be excercised by a
Bolshevik style party representing the proletariat of that country. We can only
call a nation socialist or otherwise on the basis of the party that rules
there.
The reason for the setback of
the communist have to be sought in the concrete conditions in which this setback
took place. I find it quite fantastic to postulate that the setback took place
because Stalin had no notion of the "contradiction" between the
Manifesto and the "formulations". Today we can see clearly that
imperialism changed from the colonial form to the neo-colonial form at the same
time that the setbacks started. It set up the IMF, WB and GATT around the same
time to bolster this neo-colonial system. We can also see that the communist
movement has failed to recognise this concrete change till very recently. I feel
that the real reason for the setback has to be sought in this concrete
condition.
Comrade, political texts are
written in a concrete context. It is quite possible that emphasis may vary from
time to time to the extent that two statements, read out of context, may even
sound contradictory. Besides, Marxism-Leninism is not in the nature of a
physical science like physics, chemistry or mathematics. You cannot weigh,
measure and predict results to any required degree of tolerance. The science of
society has too many unknowns and too few equations. Even physical sciences are
not exact (Ref Heisenberg's principle and Godel's theorem). You can hardly
expect exactitude from a social science like Marxism-Leninism.
Hoping that I have made my
position clear.
Your comrade,
Sanjay
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