Alan Dover wrote:

> Klo comrade,
>
> your reply to the bourgeois statement: "ardent patriotism that should be
> placed above any ideology." is mine also.
>
> As you point out: " NATIONALISM AND PATRIOTISM SHOULD ALWAYS
> BE CONSIDERED SUBORDINATE TO SOCIALISM." just as all bourgeois nations are
> all subordinate to the rule of capital. There is no such thing as
> nationalism above or without class ideology. Socialism rejects and replaces
> bourgeois nationalism with socialist internationalism. The message is, as
> you say 'subversive' and seeks to subject a united Korea to the rule of
> capital.
>
> fraternally Alan.

    How right you are Alan and I only hope the North Korean leadership
receives the same message by one means or another.  And if they already have,
one can only hope they heed its serious, very serious, warning.  Traps are
being laid for them now that they have opened the door to capitalist
influence.  I have no problem with the door being opened to trade, investment,
exchanges of technical expertise, employment of foreign technicians etc.; that
occurred under both Lenin and Stalin; but I have a tremendous objection to
adopting the other side's philosophy.  It is one thing to be among them; it's
another to become one of them.  Simply stated: The trick is to be among them
but not of them.  Fidel Castro is the quintessential example of one who has
successfully and intelligently performed this balancing act for decades.  He
puts on a business suit when conditions warrant and meetings with capitalists
are on the agenda; but dons those army fatigues when he wants people to know
where his real beliefs lie.  Reminds me of Lenin making deals with Armand
Hammer, the CEO of Occidental Petroleum.

Fraternally,

Klo

>
>
> > >     National reunification should be achieved independently by
> > the efforts of
> > > the Korean nation under all circumstances.
> > >     Koreans can certainly pool their will and efforts to
> > achieve independent
> > > reunification. Though the north and the south have the
> > differing ideologies and
> > > systems, nothing is dearer to the Koreans responsible for
> > reunification than
> > > ardent patriotism that should be placed above any ideology.
> >
> >     GOOD GRIEF NO!  WHAT BLASPHEMY!
> >
> >   Patriotism, nationalism, and a sense of national unity should
> > definitely not be
> > placed above ideology.  That is nothing more than a surreptitious
> > formula for
> > surrender and catastrophe.  Makes me wonder who is propagating
> > this nonsense.
> > Marxism-Leninism should always receive top consideration and be
> > at the head of the
> > implimentation agenda.  NATIONALISM AND PATRIOTISM SHOULD ALWAYS
> > BE CONSIDERED
> > SUBORDINATE TO SOCIALISM.  In essence, someone is trying to tell
> > the North Koreans
> > to scrap socialism if that is what it takes to achieve a unified
> > peninsula.
> > NATIONAL UNIFICATION AT ALL COSTS is a ridiculous and clearly
> > subversive message.
> > If surrendering socialism is necessary in order for the peninsula
> > to be united,
> > then may the division continue indefinitely.  Ideology is, and
> > should always
> > remain, foremost in the minds of all Marxist-Leninists.
> >
> > For the Cause,
> >
> > Klo
> >
>
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