On 5/8/21 12:49 AM, Michael Meeropol wrote:
Hi All ---- if we start with Marxist concepts then we have to ask ourselves, is chattel slavery American style CAPITALIST (there seems to be a lot of folks who [implicitly if not explicitly] believe this) -- is it PRE-CAPITALIST [the position of Eugene Genovese -- and others of course} -- or is it some SUI GENERIS Mode of Production?

I think the most crucial point Marx made about the distinction between capitalism and feudalism and what he called an Einfache Warenproduktion -- which I think translates as sole proprietorship, a workers who owns "his" [in those days mostly] means of production --- is that under capitalism the laborer is "free" --- free to work for a capitalist or STARVE.  Serfs are not free, slaves are not free --- and in fact, slaves rarely starved (though they had lousy diets. -- it was in the interest of the slave-holders to keep their slaves alives and productive = fed) while serfs starved when everyone else starved, during famines.

THerefore, American chattel slavery AIN'T Capitalism --

Most of this can be made clearer by distinguishing between capitalism as a mode of production and as a system. In my view, it is a system that in its early stages incorporates many forms of exploitation having little to do with the textile mills of the late 18th century. In fact, Marx considered them as the genesis of the industrial capitalist:

The discovery of gold and silver in America, the extirpation, enslavement and entombment in mines of the aboriginal population, the beginning of the conquest and looting of the East Indies, the turning of Africa into a warren for the commercial hunting of black-skins, signalised the rosy dawn of the era of capitalist production. These idyllic proceedings are the chief momenta of primitive accumulation. On their heels treads the commercial war of the European nations, with the globe for a theatre. It begins with the revolt of the Netherlands from Spain, assumes giant dimensions in England’s Anti-Jacobin War, and is still going on in the opium wars against China, &c.

The different momenta of primitive accumulation distribute themselves now, more or less in chronological order, particularly over Spain, Portugal, Holland, France, and England. In England at the end of the 17th century, they arrive at a systematical combination, embracing the colonies, the national debt, the modern mode of taxation, and the protectionist system. These methods depend in part on brute force,/e.g.,/the colonial system. But, they all employ the power of the State, the concentrated and organised force of society, to hasten, hot-house fashion, the process of transformation of the feudal mode of production into the capitalist mode, and to shorten the transition. Force is the midwife of every old society pregnant with a new one. It is itself an economic power.



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