Mr Weizfeld, Now I understand. Thank you for your response.
When I saw some of the names of people who had singed, that itself would have been cause for me to not sign, had I been asked. On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, abraham Weizfeld PhD <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Lucas Brown, > > > > The posting is my message to Noam Chomsky. I advise him not to sign such > an open letter because it is objectively Anti-Jewish. The use of > terminology attacking all attributes of the Zionist State as Jewish is not > only a sectarian form of Antisemitism but it is also conforms to the > Zionist definition of itself and its State. > > > > The blatant errors and misinformation contained in the proposed open > letter is misdirecting the popular solidarity for the Palestinian struggle > into an anti-Jewish direction. Not only is this a diversion from the > Anti-Zionist struggle but it also serves to provoke and sustain Judeophobic > reactions. > > > > The political differences are major and no merely a matter of > interpretation. I am with the Jewish Socialist Bund which is for Jewish > liberation from Antisemitism and fascism as well as being Anti-Zionist, > since 1897. > > > > I have been working for years to correct the > misinterpretations made by populist currents which use anti-Jewish language > but it has become more extreme and so I must denounce such a tendency and > will not work with such misdirected campaigns. > > > > This has become a split in the solidarity movement for the > Palestinians. I do not regret such a division since it is > counter-productive to sustain verbiage that is not directed against the > Zionist State but is rather directed against the Jewish identity itself as > if Jewishness is represented by Zionism, when actually Zionism represents > the Christian assimilation trend. > > > > > > abraham Weizfeld PhD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *De :* [email protected] *De la part de* Lucas Brown > *Envoyé :* 2 juin 2021 07:34 > *À :* [email protected] > *Objet :* Re: [marxmail] Dear Noam > > > > Did Noam Chomsky write this letter? I didn't see his name anywhere on it. > > > > Wouldn't it be better to sign, than not sign? You can't control the way > people interpret (or misinterpret, either intentionally or unintentionally) > the use of a word or phrase. People are paid to do that. No statement is > ever clear enough that someone won't be able to "problematize" it. > > > > Signing the letter might also bring you closer to the people who wrote it, > and you might have a say in writing the next one. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 4:29 PM abraham Weizfeld PhD <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > *De :* abraham Weizfeld PhD > *Envoyé :* 1 juin 2021 13:14 > *À :* Noam Chomsky <[email protected]> > > > > Noam, > > > > there is an open-letter circulating that is severely impaired by the use > of terminology that is ambiguous and can be interpreted as sectarian > Antisemitism. > > > > The use of the term ‘Israeli’ instead of the name of the State represented > by the flag, ‘Israel’, is a problem since it focuses on the civil society > and not the State. If ‘Israeli’ is to be considered a synonym of the State > ‘Israel’ then it may also be considered to be a synonym to ‘Jewish’. This > latter analogy is precisely what is claimed by the Zionist ideology. It is > also what is claimed by the anti-Jewish mentality which adopts Anti-Zionism > as a rationale. > > > > Although that is a common error, especially in verbal vulgarisations, that > is not the case with the more recent term introduced of ‘Jewish > Supremacy’. This is a term propagated by the antisemite Gilad Atzmon and > ties into the conspiracy theories of Globalism and The Protocols. Ironic > that while the populist Western Left turns to such a response to the > Zionist accusations of Antisemitism, the HAMAS party dropped such > references in its new Charter. > > > > I tried to convince Stanley Heller on this wording and asked for the > ‘Jewish’ to be dropped from the denunciation of supremacism, but it was > refused. So this wording following here is being promoted by Tony > Greenstein in London. > > > > The excuse provided in the debate we followed in the JewishForum List of > the JewsWhoSpeakOut List.. the justification so provided is that the > Zionist State is like the Apartheid State of South Africa and the divide > was a racial one where the White Nation was the oppressor of the Black one. > Besides the empirical methodology here, the point I tried to make in > response is that the Jewish People are not an oppressor Nation but rather > an oppressed Nation – and that the leadership of our People-Nation was > overtaken by the Zionist parties. Furthermore, that the Zionist State has > no legitimacy to claim itself to be Jewish since the Jewish-Israelis are a > minority of our People and are deeply divided themselves on the nature of > the State. > > > > The point here is that we should not use such language and so I will not > sign the letter. In fact I will resort to publicly criticize the letter for > its terminology, for the sake of saving the Jewish identity from the > Zionist pretentions as a means of bringing the Jewish People to support the > freedom of the Palestinians both resident and refugee. > > > > > > > > gitte shabbus > > > > *[abraham Weizfeld PhD] *---- > > > > Open Letter > > Take Down the Israeli Flag > > We Jewish people internationally appeal to Jews and Jewish organizations > around the world to remove Israel flags from communal spaces, whether at > Jewish schools, Jewish Federation offices or synagogues. It is clear to us > - and much of the world - as the reports of B’Tselem and Human Rights Watch > have demonstrated - that the Israeli State is an Apartheid regime and > therefore, as international law correctly confirms, it is an ongoing crime > against humanity. > > > > The government of Israel, since its start, has been determined to totally > subjugate or remove the indigenous Palestinians from the land they’ve lived > in for centuries. The Jewish supremacist state of Israel is deeply > discriminatory and necessarily violent towards Palestinians who naturally > resist oppression and expulsion. Israel logically allies itself with Far > Right and Anti-Semitic forces even though this endangers Jews worldwide. > That may seem astounding, but these noxious alliances have long been the > practice of the Zionist organizations that worked to create Israel. > > > > It is increasingly important for Jews to distinguish between Judaism and > the State of Israel and its policies. By featuring an Israeli flag > prominently in our communal institutions we permit anti-Semites to believe > that our interests are inextricably linked to those of a state whose > policies we abhor. > > > > The Israeli flag has the status of the Confederate flag. > > > > We are appalled at the idea that it represents us. > > > > It should be taken down. > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > *Initial Signers* > (*college or organizational mention for identification purposes only)* > > > > Elizabeth Aaronsohn > retired professor of Teacher Education, Central CT State University > > > > Benjamin Balthaser > member of Jewish Voice for Peace > > > > Marcia Bernstein > retired social worker > > > > Daniel Boyarin > Taubmann Professor of Talmudic Culture, UC Berkeley > > > > Prof. Haim Bresheeth > Professorial Research Associate > SOAS University of London > Author of: An Army Like No Other: How the Israel Defence Forces Made a > Nation > > > > Judith Butler > Professor and author > UC Berkeley > > > > David Cannon > Chair of Jewish Network for Palestine > > > > Robert Cohen > Jewish writer on Israel/Palestine > MA student at Lancaster University > > > > S. Cooper > Translator of Yiddish > Massachusetts > > > > Judith Cravitz > London > > > > Merav Devere > > > > Dr. Harry Feldman > Cobargo, Australia > > > > > > Sid Frankel > > University of Manitoba > > > > > > Judith Fieldstone > > Chevy Chase. MD > > retired > > > > > > Joseph C. Gerson (PhD) > President > Campaign for Peace, Disarmament & Common Security, Cambridge, Massachusetts > > > > Sue Goldstein > Artist and activist, Toronto > International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network-Canada > > > > Tony Greenstein > Brighton UK > > > > Stanley Heller > Host of "The Struggle" Video News > Connecticut > > > > Henry Herskovitz > Biological Jew > anti-Israel activist; member, "Witness for Peace" > Ann Arbor, Michigan USA > > > > > > Steve Krevisky > > CT Peace and Solidarity Coalition > > > > Bernice Laschinger > Psychotherapist > Wembley > > > > David Letwin > Jews for Palestinian Right of Return > Rutgers PTLFC AAUP-AFT, Local 6324 > > > > Michael Letwin > Former President, Assn. of Legal Aid Attorneys/UAW 2325 > Jews for Palestinian Right of Return > > > > Jane Marshall > Raising Dough for Palestine > > > > Seth Morrison > > Jewish Voice for Peace > > > > > > Sarah Plant > Composer, Activist with immigrants' organization NYC > > > > > > Susan Pashkoff > > London, GB > > > > > > Vivienne Porzsolt > > Jews against the Occupation Sydney > > > > Karen Pomer > co-founder, Jews for Palestinian Right of Return, and > granddaughter of anti-Zionist Bergen Belsen survivor. > > > > Roland Rance > London > > > > Ned Rosch > Recently returned from working in Gaza > > > > Margaret Ratner Kunstler > Human Rights Attorney > > > > David Rothstein > Stamford, CT > > > > Richard Silverstein > Journalist > Publisher, Tikun Olam > > > > Michael Steven Smith > Co-host, Law And Disorder Radio > > > > Inbar Tamari > London > > > > > > Norman Traub > > Leigh on Sea, Essex > > retired NHS (National Health Service) Consultant > > > > > > Dr Philip Ward > Retired - Sheffield > > > > Dr Rodney Watts member JNP/JVP, > signatory JJP chairman www.campain.org > Lives near Gateshead, NE England > > > > Julie Wornan > Retired computer professional > climate activist living in France > > > > b.h. Yael > Artist/Professor, Toronto > OCAD University > > > > > > *If you are Jewish [religiously, culturally, by birth, heritage, etc. ] > and you'd like to sign on as a supporter of this statement:* > *1) send an email to [email protected] <[email protected]>** with > message* > > *"I want to sign on the 'Take Down the Flag' statement".2) Add your full > name and a line of identification (profession, or activist group, or > college, or general geographic location, etc.)* > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > *R E C O N C I L I A T I O N C O N F ER E N C E L I S T* > > *قائمة مؤتمر المصالحة* > > since 1994 by the > > *Jewish People’s Liberation Organization* > > End Zionism & Judaeophobia > > abraham Weizfeld PhD moderator-founder [email protected] > > [email protected] > > political declaration *JPLO * ( a Bundist chapter ) > > https://www.academia.edu/45689019/Jewish_Peoples_Liberation_ > Organization_J_PLO_Organisation_pour_la_liberation_du_ > Peuple_Juif_OLP_J_a_Non_Zionist_Declaration_v4_2_3_ > Jewish_Bundist_Organization_?email_work_card=abstract-read-more > > http://bundist-movement.org/about-us.html > > the books > > *Sabra and Shatila (1984) 2009* > > http://bookstore.authorhouse.com/Products/SKU-000255066/Sabr > a-and-Shatila.aspx > > *The End of Zionism : and the liberation of the Jewish People 1989* > > http://www.academia.edu/11243333/THE_END_OF_ZIONISM_and_the_ > liberation_of_the_Jewish_People > > *Nation, Society and the State : the reconciliation of Palestinian and > Jewish Nationhood* > > https://www.academia.edu/40349204/VOLUME_I_SECOND_EDITION_ > THESIS_NATION_SOCIETY_AND_THE_STATE > > https://www.academia.edu/40349264/VOLUME_TWO_SECOND_EDITION_ > THESIS_METHODOLOGY_OF_NATIONAL_IDENTITY > > > > *The Federation of Palestinian and Hebrew Nations* > > https://www.academia.edu/38380122/The_Federation_of_Palestin > ian_and_Hebrew_Nations > > https://www.cambridgescholars.com/product/978-1-5275-1313-6 > > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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