On 7/8/21 4:45 PM, wytheh...@cox.net wrote:
The few Uighurs I know are certain that the Chinese government treats them in repressive ways. They recount many instances and policies of oppression.

But it is a mistake to assume that there is an ethnic group called "Uighurs." That is really a blanket term for the Muslim central Asians who live in Xinjiang, disparate peoples ethnically, who are banded together against Chinese repression. I see this as a religiously-based imperialism against people who for expedient purposes band together under the Uighur banner.

Wythe

True. The New Yorker Magazine had a harrowing story about the attempt to rid a woman of Kazakh origins of her Muslim beliefs. In fact, before these "stans" were created, you simply had Turkic-speaking, Muslim peoples spread across Czarist Russia's south. Actually, my two years of Turkish at Columbia U. allow me to understand bits and pieces of Uyghur speakers. As you go toward the east from Turkey, the Turkic speakers become more and more difficult for Turkey's people to understand. My relatives like to watch Azerbaijan TV just for laughs (they are considered yokels) but could obviously not have a conversation with a Uyghur. To be honest, I don't even think there's much of a sense of solidarity. That existed under Mustafa Kemal but had a reactionary dynamic.

Fortunately, the article is not behind the magazine's paywall now.

Growing up in this remote part of Asia, a child like Sabit, an ethnic Kazakh, could find the legacy of conquest all around her. Xinjiang is the size of Alaska, its borders spanning eight countries. Its population was originally dominated by Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and other indigenous Turkic peoples. But, by the time Sabit was born, Kuytun, like other parts of Xinjiang’s north, had dramatically changed. For decades, the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps—a state-run paramilitary development organization, known as the/bingtuan/—had helped usher in millions of Han Chinese migrants, many of them former revolutionary soldiers, to work on enormous farms. In southern Xinjiang, indigenous peoples were still prevalent, but in Kuytun they had become a vestigial presence.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/04/12/surviving-the-crackdown-in-xinjiang



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