I have often heard, and frequently use, the term "Christian Zionist" to describe right wing evangelical Christians who flag wave for Israel. Am I an outlier in this regard?
Comradely, John On Sun, 28 Apr 2024, 13:14 David Walters via groups.io, <david.walters66= comcast....@groups.io> wrote: > This could be an interesting discussion. So...who wants to DEFINE what > "Zionism" is? > > I will give it a shot. > > In general, and being raised in a very pro-Israel Jewish-American family > in New York, it depends on the context because the term "Zionism" can break > down into uselessness. A Zionist as I was growing up was someone who was > *Jewish-American* and actively supporting, politically defending, > contributing too, the State of Israel and its existence as a political > entity. I still use it this way. However, the problem arises when asked "Do > you support the continued existence of a Jewish homeland in Israel"? Most > Jewish-American (please note that hyphenated-American thing is MY > upbringing, not "Jewish" because that would impart a *religious stance* > that I now totally reject) and I'm not a Jewish-Canadian, or a > Jewish-Mexican (yes, there are many) or from any other country. I think it > is probably close to a large majority maybe close to 80 or 90% of > Jewish-Americans who broadly support the establishment of the State of > Israel. If you define being a Zionist in that way but *only apply it* to > Jewish-Americans then *something is quite wrong*. A "Zionist" then could > be a Christian as many do...far more in absolute numbers than there > Jewish-Americans in total. But we don't really see or hear people accusing > Christian defenders of Israel as being "Zionist". So it needs to be > discussed in a calm manner. > > Politically and personally, I would like to use my original definition and > not the passive "Yes, I support Israel" definition of Zionism. I think > Zionism is both a program and...and ideology and if we narrow it down this > way, fewer people are actually true Zionists. I believe now with the campus > occupations the term is being used far too casually and is causing > problems. What do folks think? > > David > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#30112): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/30112 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105740767/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: marxmail+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-