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On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 02:34 PM, Mark Baugher wrote:

> 
> ...this "cold war" exists between blocs of capitalist countries. At least
> that's the evidence-based approach. But China has become perceived as
> "communist" over the past ten years as opportunistic politicians use the
> label, which of course is reinforced by the name of the ruling party in
> China. I don't think we have that problem on this list, do we?

I don’t have a problem with seeing the Chinese system as a more advanced 
state-directed form of capitalism, other than that the 19th century unfettered 
Western model was seen as its end stage. If the PRC and its supporters claim 
the same features instead represent a very early stage of “socialism with 
Chinese characteristics”, the debate seems mostly semantic.

Whether they characterize it as "capitalist" or "socialist",  the Chinese 
single-party rather than the bourgeois democratic model is more appealing to 
many in the global south who credit it for the PRC's dramatic rise. There is in 
that sense an ideological dimension to the conflict, although not as pronounced 
as when the USSR supported parties programatically dedicated to the overthrow 
of capitalism. IMO it's the appeal of the Chinese model more than its military 
and economic power which explains US imperalism's aggressive efforts to curtail 
its growth through its global network of military and trade alliances, the 
means it has consistently used to secure its empire.


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