Remember What Audre Lorde Told Us: The Oppressor Doesn’t Determine What’s True 
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Remember What Audre Lorde Told Us: The Oppressor Doesn’t Determine What’s True

To navigate these terrible times, we need Audre’s Lorde’s audacity: Protect the 
public sphere. Refuse to be silenced.

Since Donald Trump came to power for the second time in the United States, the 
attacks on all of our intersecting communities have been raining down fast and 
hard.
The current Trump administration has unleashed an assault on undocumented 
immigrants; teachers who refuse to excise discussions of systemic racism from 
their curricula; trans schoolchildren and their teachers; people in need of 
reproductive health care; Palestinians resisting the ethnic cleansing of Gaza; 
recipients of humanitarian aid; diversity, equity and inclusion workers; 
Muslims in the U.S.; U.S. citizens who speak Spanish; children who are born in 
the U.S. to immigrant parents; Indigenous people; union workers; pro-Palestine 
activists; incarcerated people; abortion pill providers; trans workers facing 
discrimination; and many others among us.
Already the policy changes made under the second Trump administration have 
derailed anti-discrimination laws and affirmative action initiatives, clean 
water protections, consumer protection measures, standard public health 
measures, doctors’ ability to access basic medical information and 
environmental protection efforts.
In the face of these attacks, more than ever we need to make space for Black 
History Month as a time for deep reflection. Let’s claim space for a sense of 
Black care, a time and space where we celebrate or assemble to honor each other 
and those Black voices that have shaped us, empowered us, augmented our 
critical imagination's, and have given of themselves their time, energy, pain 
and love.
There is nothing simply abstract or cerebral about this process. It isn’t easy. 
Remembering can be painful, and yet transformative and joyful. It is a 
profoundly embodied and affective process, a coming together that encourages 
differences and yet negotiates such differences for mutually greater 
understanding and empowerment.
Significantly, Audre Lorde understood the meaning of our interconnectedness, 
saying, “There is no such thing as a single-issue struggle because we do not 
live single-issue lives.”
Hence, it is with deep respect for Lorde’s scholarship, her political, 
philosophical and poetic voice, and her activism, that I interviewed Amber 
Jamilla Musser to highlight critical insights of Audre Lorde’s work.
Musser is a professor of English and Africana studies at the CUNY Graduate 
Center. Her work critically engages important themes at the intersections of 
race, sexuality and aesthetics. Her recently published book is entitled, 
Between Shadows and Noise: Sensation, Situatedness, and the Undisciplined. The 
interview that follows has been lightly edited for clarity and length.
George Yancy: It is my understanding that Audre Lorde, using the power of 
self-descriptive agency, defined herself as a “Black, lesbian, mother, warrior, 
poet.” There is something audacious about Lorde’s self-understanding. It is a 
form of articulation that not only courageously speaks the truth, but it also 
refuses an external gaze that is often filled with so many presuppositions that 
do violence. It is that clarity of self that speaks to self-empowerment. Yet, 
that clarity is collectively generative; it encourages others to speak for 
themselves as they wish (perhaps demand) to be known. I’ll begin there. Let’s 
talk about the audacity of Lorde and her passion for speaking truth to power, 
especially in terms of how it shows up in her written work.
Amber Musser: First, it’s important to remember that Lorde draws strength from 
being perceived as different, leading her to argue in “The Master’s Tools Will 
Never Dismantle The Master’s House” that, “It is learning how to stand alone, 
unpopular and sometimes reviled, and how to make common cause with those others 
identified as outside the structures in order to define and seek a world in 
which we can all flourish. It is learning how to take our differences and make 
them strengths.”
In this, what you describe as audacity, this fierce claiming of being, we can 
see that Lorde is not content with merely sitting with description but wants to 
mobilize these identities toward changing the world. Here, we see that Lorde’s 
collection of labels — “Black, lesbian, mother, warrior, poet” — names a set of 
interlocking political identities. Although this is a list of accurate 
descriptions, what is most important about them for Lorde is that they have 
shaped the way she understands and moves through the world. Her Blackness, for 
example, has led to her thinking deeply about racism; her lesbianism has 
influenced many of the erotic undertones in her poetry; and her motherhood 
informs the way she writes toward the future. Of course, Lorde is interested in 
the ways that these identities intersect, but she is also interested in how 
they orient her thinking and being against various forms of oppression based on 
her own experiences of marginalization.
But there is something else that is important about Lorde’s self-claiming of 
these identities. Although she began many of her public presentations with this 
phrase, one of the places the full phrase of self-claimed identities appears in 
writing is in The Cancer Journals, the book of prose and journal entries that 
she published in 1980 after her first bout with breast cancer. The book is 
clear-eyed and full of indictments: Lorde traces the ways that racism and 
capitalism have increased her and her community’s exposure to toxic 
environmental pollutants, and she forcefully critiques the superficiality of 
the medical-industrial complex and its gendered expectations for what recovery 
from breast cancer looks like. In this context, I see Lorde’s claiming of her 
identities as an intervention against systems of power that would see her as a 
statistic or object; here, these labels speak to her humanity and illustrate 
the many different ways that she exists in community.
So I think this set of labels is important and inspiring for so many reasons; 
there is the sheer radicality of existing as a Black lesbian in the 1950s (and 
mother since the 1960s), seeing how one can live one’s identity politically, 
and there is the insistence on prioritizing one’s humanity and community. In 
each of these, we have lessons for how to move through the world.
My emphasis on the “collectively generative” reflects what I see as Lorde’s aim 
to speak to and with others. Indeed, speaking already implies sociality or 
being with others. Lorde wrote, “I have come to believe over and over again 
that what is most important to me must be spoken, made verbal and shared, even 
at the risk of having it bruised or misunderstood.” Lorde is clearly aware of 
the risk involved in refusing silence. Could you share some of the ways in 
which you believe Lorde’s work on language and action are important to us today?
Later in that same essay — which was originally published in The Cancer 
Journals, by the way — Lorde writes, “What are the words you do not yet have? 
What do you need to say? What are the tyrannies you swallow day by day and 
attempt to make your own, until you will sicken and die of them, still in 
silence?”
To me, this is Lorde’s invitation to speak truth to power, to not allow the 
framework of the oppressor determine what is true or real by letting the world 
get smaller and smaller. In this way it reminds me of Hannah Arendt’s warning 
that fascism proceeds by obfuscating the truth so that people become unaware of 
any other possibilities. Lorde asks us to remember the importance of critique — 
that it only becomes possible if people are speaking from outside the centers 
of power. This also means being attentive to the power dynamics that produce 
silence. It isn’t merely a matter of wanting to say something; the ability to 
speak also relies on the maintenance of a public sphere.
In our current moment, Lorde’s arguments make me think a lot about the efforts 
behind book banning, where books that allow readers to see and think about 
lives beyond the white, Christian, heterosexual norm are being taken away from 
libraries and schools. This is the type of silencing that not only disavows 
many ways that people are living their lives, but this silencing wants to make 
it difficult for some to even imagine other ways of being. On the one hand, 
these impulses toward censorship underscore the power of the words and ideas 
that they want to ban, but on the other hand, they obviously serve to further 
marginalize and, more dangerously, criminalize or pathologize many ways of 
being, which in turn, impoverishes the political sphere by leaving people 
feeling disempowered and unable to speak.
We see a lot of these same forces at work in “cancel culture” and doxing — in 
that people are being disallowed to speak by mobilizing larger forces against 
them. In the case of doxing, the practice removes the speaker’s sense of safety 
by making them vulnerable to the vigilant justice of the mob, and in cancel 
culture, a community determines that someone’s utterances are no longer welcome 
or, worse, that they need to be expelled from the community. But I think here 
the underlying questions are actually less about speech and more about what it 
means to be in community. To that, I would reemphasize that Lorde has a strong 
investment in forming solidarity across difference and working through 
disagreements and allowing people the safety to do so.
Lorde powerfully stated, “My response to racism is anger.” She implied that 
earlier in her life she expressed her anger in silence. She then emphatically 
says, “My fear of anger taught me nothing. Your fear of that anger will teach 
you nothing, also.” What I admire about Lorde is how honest she is about shared 
human embodiment, and a range of affective states — anger, joy, eros. When I 
read “The Uses of Anger,” I thought about the recent presidential election and 
how Black women have been expressing anger regarding white women’s decision to 
vote for Trump, especially given his nasty and violent treatment of women. This 
speaks to a long history of white women and their loyalty to whiteness. Within 
this context, we should note that in “The Master’s Tools Will Never Dismantle 
the Master’s House,” Lorde is critical of the expectation that Black women are 
tasked with educating white women. She says, “This is a diversion of energies 
and a tragic repetition of racist patriarchal thought.” What wisdom might Lorde 
share with Black women vis-à-vis the issue of white women’s loyalty to 
whiteness?
In a lot of ways this question of “divided” loyalties goes back to what I was 
just saying about community. One of the reasons that Lorde is invested in 
working through difference is that it can be useful for seeing how people’s 
relationships to power affect their perspectives. In “Age, Race, Class, and 
Sex: Women Redefining Difference,” Lorde writes, “it is not those differences 
between us that are separating us. It is rather a refusal to recognize those 
differences, and to examine the distortions which result from our misnaming 
them and their effects upon human behavior and expectation.”
Here, I don’t see Lorde as advocating for Black women to teach white women 
anything, but I do see an emphasis on the importance of critical 
self-reflection. Undertaking that type of self-analysis would enable women to 
see how forces of patriarchy, classism, heterosexism and racism have turned 
people away from working toward their common cause — the fight for equality, 
dignity and dismantling oppression. This work is important for everyone because 
it helps to sow the seeds for solidarity. There is, however, more to Lorde’s 
politics. She was also pragmatic and well aware of white women’s attachment not 
only to whiteness, but also to the protections afforded by white patriarchy. 
And in light of that, I think we need to take seriously Lorde’s calls for 
self-care, which are about recognizing that Black women are living under 
conditions of constant duress and oppression, and that taking the time to care 
for one’s self is radical because it goes against the demand that Black women 
use their energy and labor for others (including education): “Caring for myself 
is not self-indulgence, it is self-preservation, and that is an act of 
political warfare.”
Lastly, Lorde is also aware of how internalized oppression operates. She warns 
of “the oppressor which is planted deep within each of us, and which knowns 
only the oppressors’ tactics, the oppressors’ relationships.” Lorde’s point 
here has implications for all of us who want to be free of multiple and 
intersectional oppressions. Could you speak to this?
Lorde keenly understood the ways that experiences of power shaped the way 
people live their lives. On the one hand, it makes for a rich tapestry of 
intersectional identities, but on the other, it produces these knots whereby 
these different relationships to power result in conflicting desires — 
conscious or not. I’ve already mentioned Lorde’s discussion of white women, but 
in “Sexism: An American Disease in Blackface,” she writes, “In this country, 
Black women traditionally have had compassion for everybody else except 
ourselves. We have cared for whites because we had to for pay or survival; we 
have cared for our children and our fathers and our brothers and our lovers.… 
We need to learn to have care and compassion for ourselves, also.”
The reasons for this “compassion,” which holds others in higher regard than 
Black women and which we might also describe as a type of internalized 
oppression, has largely to do with survival. In some ways this means that the 
answer to internalized oppression is structural. Solving economic inequalities 
and providing access to education, housing and jobs would relieve Black women 
of the burden of having to depend on others for safety, which would then mean 
that their feelings could have free rein.
Because, of course, the ways that these forms of structural dependency are 
experienced are, as Lorde points out, through the devaluation of one’s worth 
and self. This brings me back to Lorde’s discussion of caring for the self as a 
political act, and it also returns us to where this conversation began — with 
the audacity of Lorde’s self-claiming of identity.
At this point, however, perhaps we see that embedded within each of the other 
labels “Black,” “woman,” “mother,” “lesbian” and “poet,” we always already find 
“warrior” because claiming each of these identities requires feeling through an 
oppositional framework to shed the baggage of marginalization and devaluation 
to find something that feels true.


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