On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 10:50 AM, Charles wrote:

> 
> Gandall mis-reads everything. The distinction between an ideological
> leader, Sunkara, and the rank and file activists of DSA is an ABC of left
> politics. He lies that if one scorns the former, one scorns the latter.

I don’t see any such divide. Sunkara identifies with Marxism and used to 
actively participate on Doug Henwood’s LBO list and the late Michael Perelman's 
Pen-L list before he went on to found Jacobin. Mamdani is close to Sunkara and 
has written for Jacobin.

If they they do not meet Charle’s narrow definition of Marxism or have moved 
away from it, the worst that can be said of  them and other DSA leaders is that 
they are ideologivally aligned rather than in conflict with the prevailing left 
refomist consciousness of the base. Least of all have I read or heard anything 
to suggest the ranks share Charles’ scornful dismissal of Sunkara and 
presumably other prominent DSA figures as “hacks”, not even from avowed 
communists such as those affiliated with the Red Star, Marxist Unity, and 
Communist caucuses who have serious differences with the DSA leadership over 
the focus on electoral politics and the timing of a break with the Democrats.

I would have greater respect for Charles’ very confident opinions if he walked 
the walk and joined one of these groups to test his views in practice rather 
than spending his time on marxmail angrily venting at those he deems " 
anti-communists, social democrats, and Trotskyites ”.


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