ಪ್ರತಿ ಬಾರಿಯೂ ಇದೇ ಸಮಸ್ಯೆ ಏತಕ್ಕ್ೆ ನೀಲಿನಕ್ಷೆ ಕೊಡಬೇಕು ಅದರ ಬದಲು ಅವರಿಷ್ಟಕ್ಕೆ ನೀಡಿದರೆ ಒಳ್ಳೆಯ ದು On Apr 9, 2016 12:48, "Shashidhar Kumbar" <shashikumbar2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Resp sir.. If only Understanding level Qn asking than what's the hel... > Board giving Blue Print and asking us teach (S.U.K.A. etc) in all aspect, > bring the best among in students.. > In rural we teaching students where they are blank and below average. I > think few of our dear Teachers who's opinion +ve most of them are Urban Pvt > or Conments or English medium.. > On Apr 8, 2016 9:12 PM, "Mallesha MR" <mrm.malle...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> donot worry, already it is ended matter >> >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Kolaronline Klr <onlineko...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> science paper ge ee bari grace marks kodalebeku antha ella science >>> teachers kelbeku enanthira >>> >>> On 8 April 2016 at 20:40, Gurumurthy K <itfc.stfk...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Subramani sir >>>> >>>> thank you for your reply. It is exactly connected to what I was saying. >>>> >>>> I agree that there are many pressures on teachers to take the 'short >>>> cut' of drill/pass package instead of the 'more difficult' path of >>>> conceptual understanding - the quantum of syllabus is too much, the >>>> education system/department does not encourage conceptual learning but puts >>>> pressure on exam results, teachers knowledge of pedagogies and concepts may >>>> also need to be improved but teacher training programs are not effective. >>>> and teacher educators themselves may not know better. >>>> >>>> However, having said the above, I feel strongly that teachers must take >>>> the path of teaching their students conceptual understanding and abandon >>>> the drill/pass package method/route which only fails the children.... this >>>> is not just my opinion, this is the spirit of NCF 2005, so it is national >>>> policy as well. >>>> >>>> Children are in school to learn, develop conceptual understanding which >>>> is necessary for application in real life. >>>> >>>> In my opinion, learning is not equal to drill / pass packages. I am >>>> making a statement that will not be liked by some, but drill and pass >>>> packages only end up cheating the children. Also drill methods make >>>> students dislike the subject. Whereas if students learn science through the >>>> right approaches (learning science by doing, exploring science curiously, >>>> building models to understand nature, developing a scientific temper etc >>>> ....). 'Good' Indian students are well known for their ability to parrot >>>> out content but with very poor ability to apply it in real life situations. >>>> what use is that bookish knowledge. >>>> >>>> And I say this with the knowledge that there are many teachers in our >>>> Karnataka GHS, who are trying the path of conceptual learning and >>>> succeeding as well. Their experiences and learnings can guide us well. Let >>>> us give up the pass package approach... this I am saying not only for >>>> science but for all subjects. I request teachers like Shashi Kumar sir, >>>> Mohan sir, Radha Madam, Gulzar madam (and hundreds of other such teachers >>>> who are members of this group) who have been adopting different approaches >>>> to help students really develop conceptual understanding of science, to >>>> share their experiences and methods, which can help all teachers. >>>> >>>> Once again, Subramani sir, thanks for frankly sharing your views, so >>>> that we can debate and discuss the issue fully and understand one another. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> Guru >>>> >>>> >>>> IT for Change, Bengaluru >>>> www.ITforChange.net >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Subramani V <subramaniv...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> @gurumurthy sir. Even I didn't see d paper. M y students discussed >>>>> questions wit me. I came to a conclusion that they are beyond d level a >>>>> 10th grade students. No its our turn to think >>>>> 1)hav v taught d concepts to that level. >>>>> 2)is d time provided enough to us to teach Dat much deep about d >>>>> concept. >>>>> 3)can d rural below average students can think such deep into d >>>>> concept. >>>>> 4)we have given passpackages for drill. Was Dat came helpful to den. >>>>> 5)below average students complained Dat no questions came from d pass >>>>> packages wat v hav given for drill. >>>>> On Apr 8, 2016 4:58 PM, "chiranjeevi khethavath" < >>>>> yuvachiranjeevi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear sir not only this year. every year science question paper was >>>>>> not difficult to our teachers.compare to other subject QP,sc QP is >>>>>> little >>>>>> bit difficult to rural Kannada medium students, they took passmark but >>>>>> cont get more marks >>>>>> On Apr 8, 2016 2:04 PM, "Gurumurthy K" <itfc.stfk...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> dear Sunil sir >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in my opinion, it is not useful to have a vote on this issue - that >>>>>>> will only tell us how many people agree/disagree (summative information) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what will be more useful for all teachers is if we can analyse why >>>>>>> we feel it was difficult, i can suggest some points for the discussion >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. was the question paper having questions on topics not part of the >>>>>>> syllabus >>>>>>> 2. was the question forcing students to think and apply what they >>>>>>> learnt ... and not focusing on producing information from rote memory >>>>>>> 3. was the level of Kannada language difficult to understand. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i have not seen the science paper. But my doubt is as follows - >>>>>>> if the question paper is not encouraging students to write from rote >>>>>>> memory but forcing them to think and apply what they have learnt in >>>>>>> answering, I think it may be difficult but it is good. Here the >>>>>>> question is >>>>>>> as teachers, are we making students memorise content, or are we helping >>>>>>> them understand concepts which they can apply as per the question in the >>>>>>> exam. as per the national curricular framework 2005 science position >>>>>>> paper, >>>>>>> one of the problems in science teaching is that we teach facts to be >>>>>>> memorised by students. whereas the facts (content) is to be used for >>>>>>> helping conceptual understanding. for eg. while teaching periodic >>>>>>> table, it >>>>>>> can be simply taught as a table to be memorised. where student needs to >>>>>>> memorise (by heart) the atomic number of 100+ elements and see how they >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> be placed in the table. or it can be learn by exploring 'how is matter >>>>>>> around us structured? what is the concept of an element? are there a >>>>>>> finite >>>>>>> number of elements? what does an element signify - physically, >>>>>>> chemically? >>>>>>> how did scientists try to address these questions, what answers did they >>>>>>> give? here science becomes a method to understand nature, build models. >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> as a set of boring facts ... the question papers also should gradually >>>>>>> move >>>>>>> from content / memory testing to testing conceptual understanding. (this >>>>>>> applies to all subjects, not only science). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> again, as I said, I have not seen the question paper, so this is >>>>>>> only an opinion. I will be interested to hear your responses to my >>>>>>> thoughts >>>>>>> and also your own understanding of why the paper is being seen as >>>>>>> difficult >>>>>>> by many teachers. perhaps such a qualitative discussion (on the reasons >>>>>>> etc) can help us understand how we can become better science teachers >>>>>>> next >>>>>>> year... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> Guru, IT for Change >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IT for Change, Bengaluru >>>>>>> www.ITforChange.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:09 PM, sunilsringeri revanker < >>>>>>> sunilkumarharogo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> LETS HV VOTE >>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2016 1:50 PM, "shashikumarcrkumar" < >>>>>>>> shashikumarcrku...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> 1. 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