On 24 Nov 2014 12:42, "Benjamin Root" <ben.r...@ou.edu> wrote:
>
> It is odd you mentioned the extra refreshes. I have to double-check my
book examples, but I think I found that I needed to add some extra
draw_idle() calls when using native wx widgets.
>
> This does raise another point. As a development policy, how should we
treat the backends? Should we be free to change it up so long as it works
well with Matplotlib, or should we be cautious and recognize that there are
users who go down beyond the canvas layer?
>
Because the backends are pretty close I would like to think we can modify
them, but by my own experience this is not the case. Whenever you want to
do something more (but not too much) you as user just tweak the backend.
That is one of the reasons behind MEP22. To offer a "clean" way to modify
the backend without actually modifying it.
@tacaswell was working on a PR along the lines of making the backend
components reusable (not just the canvas)

> Ben Root
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Chris Barker <chris.bar...@noaa.gov>
wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Eric Firing <efir...@hawaii.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2014/11/23, 12:18 PM, Benjamin Root wrote:
>>> > Reading through the backend_wx.py code, I noticed a small deviation
from
>>> > the other interactive backends. All other
>>> > new_figure_manager_given_figure() separately creates a canvas and
>>> > manager object (which, in turn, creates the window object) and hooks
>>> > them all up. The manager would handle all window responsibilities such
>>> > as creation/destruction and sizing. However, for the WX backend, this
>>> > function just creates a FigureFrameWx object, which is the window
>>> > widget. This object also becomes responsible for creating the canvas
and
>>> > the manager.
>>> >
>>> > This setup seems a bit backwards to me, but I am not entirely sure. It
>>> > is definitely different. Does anybody know if it is merely a remnant
of
>>> > older designs (I think WX was the first backend)? What are the
>>> > limitations of this approach, if any? Is there any interest in
>>> > normalizing this backend design with the others (or vice versa)?
>>>
>>> In general, making the backends as similar as possible (and factoring
>>> out as much as possible) is good; but actually messing around with these
>>> things can be time consuming, painful, and hazardous.  It's hard to test
>>> with all the different platforms and versions.
>>
>>
>> Last I looked, and I doubt much has changed, the wx back-end required a
fair bit of love -- there was a lot of extra refresh() calls being made in
various places, most of which were unnecessary most of the time  -- i.e. a
bunch of extra refreshes. I've been hoping for literally years to find the
time to go in an clean that up, but not yet....
>>
>> So -- if someone can dedicate some time to clean up the wx back-end,
then it wold make sense to look into normalizing this, too. But I agree
with Eric, this is likely to be a significant job --  wouldn't tough unless
your'e ready to commit to some real work.
>>
>> If it ain't broke.....
>>
>> -Chris
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