At 3:12 PM -0700 9/15/06, Christopher Barker wrote:
>Russell E Owen wrote:
>>Interesting idea. I'm not sure I'd know how to use more than one 
>>numerix option at once,
>
>well, I dint' mean more than one numerix option, exactly. What I 
>meant was that MPL is using numarray, but another module you've 
>imported is using Numeric (or numpy or whatever).

Ah. I can guarantee that's happening. Some of my code uses Numeric 
(due to high speed on short arrays) and some uses numarray (because I 
started using it for all new code when it looked like it would take 
over). I hope to switch to numpy for everything once the dust 
settles, but I don't want to force my users to all move at once (a 
lot of them are on unix and will have to manually install numpy -- no 
big deal, but I get complaints every time I require a new package).

>  > but it did inspire me to try a few things:
>
>>backend      : TkAgg
>>numerix      : numarray
>>interactive  : True
>>and the crash still happens:
>>from pylab import *
>>plot([1,2,3,4])
>
>>I also tried setting numerix to Numeric and it still happens.
>
>Does it happen with wxAgg? or just plain ol Agg? also try the 
>non-agg TK back-end.

I don't have wx or gtk installed, so no easy way to test those backends.

It does not crash with plain old Agg (but of course I don't see any plot).

I'll be happy to try the "non-agg TK back-end" if you can tell me 
what setting to use for it. I didn't see it in the matplotlibrc's 
list of options (but WXAgg is also missing from that particular 
list), nor on the "Which backend should I use?" page.

>If not, then you've apparently found a tkAgg bug.
>
>TK has always been a bit of a second-class citizen on the Mac -- why 
>haven't you switched to wx yet? ;-)

I started this project several years ago and at the time Tcl/Tk was 
the only game in town for Mac+unix+windows cross-platform support. 
Admittedly the Mac support was poor, but it has gotten much better, 
and I like Tkinter pretty well overall. It would be a major job to 
switch now and I doubt I can justify the expense and time. Sometimes 
I wish I'd used Java, even though the I strongly prefer Python, just 
to get a standard GUI.

I'll try bulding matplotlib from source, just to see if there might 
be some quirk about the installer package.

-- Russell

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