is the suggestion that the matplotlib algorithm is correct in computing PSD amplitudes?

btw, increasing nFFT increases the number of points used in the FFT, which
increases the spectral frequency resolution (smaller binwidth) but for a limited data set
of N points, as is the case in the example, decreases the number of data averages
thereby decreasing the spectral amplitude resolution (accuracy). keep in mind that
just changing nFFT without making a corresponding change in overlap will oversample
the data, thereby skewing the amplitudes.

in any case, the amplitude change is not approaching infinity, even if you set nFFT to
6000, which is the length of the timeseries, the amplitudes are ~35dB, adjust variable ymax
to see this.

to review issues of spectral/amplitude resolution, windowing/overlap, etc, a good
reference is Random Data by Bendat  &Piersol:
http://www.amazon.com/Random-Data-Analysis-Measurement-Procedures/dp/0471317330

i remain unconvinced that the PSD amplitudes are reasonable, which only leaves Matlab
as an alternative... that's a hard pill to swallow... matplotlib is clearly preferable.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If you lower the resolution (ie increase nFFT) in your program you will see that the PSD does indeed increase.  I think it may be on the way to infinity.




Joseph Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

26/10/2007 10:05 AM

To
matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net
cc

Subject
Re: [Matplotlib-users] PSD amplitudes







Shouldn't the PSD for a simple sine wave tend to infinity

the spectral resolution will impact the amplitude, if you
are not dealing with a density. by definition a spectral density
has applied the bandwidth resolution correction. the PSD amplitude
should correspond to the RMS amplitude of the sine wave. in the
example a 1VRMS amplitude sine wave (time domain) should have a
PSD power of 20*log(1V) = 0dB. The windowing function will impact
this ideal number a bit, but certainly not by 25dB.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Are you sure that the answer should be zero?  Shouldn't the PSD for a simple sine wave tend to infinity (depending on the resolution)?




Joseph Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

26/10/2007 06:50 AM


To
matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net
cc

Subject
[Matplotlib-users] PSD amplitudes









Please try the attached script.
The answer should be ~0 dB for each of the frequencies.
Most likely a simple scaling issue/parameter of which i'm ignorant.

--



______________________________________________________________________
This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
For more information please visit
http://www.messagelabs.com/email
______________________________________________________________________
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
## Name:     psd_scale.py
##            
## Purpose:  Test Power Spectral Density of 1Vrms data
##           Depends on Python SciPy and NumPy
##            
## Author:       J Park
##
## Created:      10/17/07
##
## Modified:    
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------

try:
  from numpy import *  #
www.numpy.org numpy.scipy.org
except ImportError:
  print "Failed to import numpy."
 
try:
  import pylab as mp  # matplotlib.sourceforge.net
  from matplotlib.font_manager import fontManager, FontProperties
except ImportError:
  print "Failed to import pylab."
 

# Default Parameters
nFFT          = 1024
overlap       = 512  
freqSample    = 100.
PlotAll       = False
WriteOutput   = False

##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
## Main module
def main():

  deltaF = freqSample/nFFT # Frequency resolution in Hz
  deltaT = 1./freqSample   # Sample interval
  print 'Sample interval %e (s)'       % (deltaT)
  print 'Frequency resolution %e (Hz)' % (deltaF)

  # Setup Plots
  # ----------------------------------------------------------------------
  mp.figure(1)
  mp.title ( "PSD" )
  mp.ylabel( "(dB)" )
  mp.xlabel( "Frequency (Hz)" )
  legendFont = FontProperties(size='small')

  ymin = 0
  ymax = 30
  xmin = 0
  xmax = 50
  xticks = 5
  yticks = 5

  if PlotAll:
      mp.figure(2)
      mp.title ( "Input Timeseries" )
      mp.ylabel( "Amplitude" )
      mp.xlabel( "time (s)" )

  # Create some synthetic data with unity RMS amplitude = 0 dB
  # ----------------------------------------------------------------------
  t = mp.arange(0., 60., deltaT) # 60 seconds at deltaT interval
  A = 1.414
 
  y0 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 5  * t )
  y1 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 10 * t )
  y2 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 20 * t )
  y3 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 30 * t )
  y4 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 40 * t )
  y5 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 45 * t )

  dataList = [ y0, y1, y2, y3, y4, y5 ]
 
  for data in dataList:
      inputDataLen = len( data )
      numAverages  = math.floor( inputDataLen / (overlap) ) - 1
      normalizedRandomError = 1./math.sqrt( numAverages )
      print "%d points" % ( inputDataLen ),
      print "%d averages" % (numAverages),
      print "normalized random error %.3f" % ( normalizedRandomError )

      mp.figure(1)
      (Pxx, freqs) = mp.psd( data,
                             NFFT     = nFFT,
                             Fs       = freqSample,
                             noverlap = overlap,
                             lw       = 2,
                             label    = '' )

      Pxx_dB = 10.*log10(Pxx)
     
      if PlotAll:
          mp.figure(2)
          mp.plot(t, data, label='' )

      # Write Output data
      # ----------------------------------------------------------------------
      if WriteOutput:
          PxxLen = len(Pxx)
          OutputFile = "PSD.dat"
          fdOutFile = open( OutputFile, 'a' )
          fdOutFile.write( "Freq\t\tPower(dB)\n" )
          for i in range(PxxLen):
              fdOutFile.write( "%.4e\t%.3f\n" % ( freqs[i], Pxx_dB[i] ) )
          fdOutFile.close()
          print "Wrote ", PxxLen, " points to ", OutputFile
         

  # Show the Plot
  # ----------------------------------------------------------------------
  mp.figure(1)
  mp.axis([xmin, xmax, ymin, ymax])
  mp.xticks( arange(xmin, xmax+1, xticks) )
  mp.yticks( arange(ymin, ymax  , yticks) )
  mp.title('')
  mp.xlabel('Frequency (Hz)')
  mp.ylabel(r'$\tt{dB re V^2/Hz}$')
  #mp.legend( loc='upper right', prop=legendFont )
  if WriteOutput:
      plotFileName = "PSD.png"
      mp.savefig( plotFileName )
      print "Wrote png image to ", plotFileName
  if PlotAll:
      mp.figure(2)
      #mp.legend( loc='lower left', prop=legendFont )
  mp.show()

  print "Normal Exit"
## Main module
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------

##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
## Provide for cmd line invocation
if __name__ == "__main__":
  main()

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc.
Still grepping through log files to find problems?  Stop.
Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser.
Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >>
http://get.splunk.com/_______________________________________________
Matplotlib-users mailing list

Matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users


UNITED GROUP
This email message is the property of United Group. The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, copy or distribute this email, nor take or omit to take any action in reliance on it. United Group accepts no liability for any damage caused by this email or any attachments due to viruses, interference, interception, corruption or unauthorised access.
If you have received this email in error, please notify United Group immediately by email to the sender's email address and delete this document.


--


______________________________________________________________________
This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email
______________________________________________________________________
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc.
Still grepping through log files to find problems?  Stop.
Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser.
Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/_______________________________________________
Matplotlib-users mailing list
Matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users


UNITED GROUP
This email message is the property of United Group. The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, copy or distribute this email, nor take or omit to take any action in reliance on it. United Group accepts no liability for any damage caused by this email or any attachments due to viruses, interference, interception, corruption or unauthorised access.
If you have received this email in error, please notify United Group immediately by email to the sender's email address and delete this document.

-- 


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc.
Still grepping through log files to find problems?  Stop.
Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser.
Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/
_______________________________________________
Matplotlib-users mailing list
Matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users

Reply via email to