It is true that when a lower generation limit is binding, as in this example, the LMP at the bus will be lower than the generator’s marginal cost (or offer in a market context). So, in a market you can’t get away with paying such a generator only the LMP, you typically also pay them an “uplift” payment equal to the shadow price on the lower generation limit in order to make them whole financially.
Ray > On Nov 19, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Victor Hugo Hinojosa M. <victor.hinoj...@usm.cl> > wrote: > > Thank you so much for the information Prof. Zimmerman. > I’d like your explanation about the simulation for the 6-bus system (Wood & > Wollemberg). When I run a DCOPF with the original case (rundcopf(case6ww)), > the LMP shown for Matpower are the same (11.899 $/MWh) for all buses because > there isn’t congestion in the transmission lines. Despite of the fact that > the Lagrange multiplier for generator 1 is active (0.303 $/MWh), the LMP are > the same. In my opinion, the LPM from bus 1 should be 12.202 $/MWh. > I’ll wait for your comments. > Regards, > Vh > > > MATPOWER Version 5.1, 20-Mar-2015 -- DC Optimal Power Flow > Gurobi Version 6.0.4 -- automatic QP solver > > Converged in 0.16 seconds > Objective Function Value = 3046.41 $/hr > ================================================================================ > | System Summary > | > ================================================================================ > > How many? How much? P (MW) Q (MVAr) > --------------------- ------------------- ------------- ----------------- > Buses 6 Total Gen Capacity 530.0 0.0 to 0.0 > Generators 3 On-line Capacity 530.0 0.0 to 0.0 > Committed Gens 3 Generation (actual) 210.0 0.0 > Loads 3 Load 210.0 0.0 > Fixed 3 Fixed 210.0 0.0 > Dispatchable 0 Dispatchable -0.0 of -0.0 -0.0 > Shunts 0 Shunt (inj) -0.0 0.0 > Branches 11 Losses (I^2 * Z) 0.00 0.00 > Transformers 0 Branch Charging (inj) - 0.0 > Inter-ties 0 Total Inter-tie Flow 0.0 0.0 > Areas 1 > > Minimum Maximum > ------------------------- -------------------------------- > Voltage Magnitude 1.000 p.u. @ bus 1 1.000 p.u. @ bus 1 > Voltage Angle -3.67 deg @ bus 5 0.00 deg @ bus 1 > Lambda P 11.90 $/MWh @ bus 3 11.90 $/MWh @ bus 4 > Lambda Q 0.00 $/MWh @ bus 1 0.00 $/MWh @ bus 1 > > ================================================================================ > | Bus Data > | > ================================================================================ > Bus Voltage Generation Load > Lambda($/MVA-hr) > # Mag(pu) Ang(deg) P (MW) Q (MVAr) P (MW) Q (MVAr) P Q > > ----- ------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- ------- > ------- > 1 1.000 0.000* 50.00 0.00 - - 11.899 - > 2 1.000 -0.299 88.07 0.00 - - 11.899 - > 3 1.000 -0.278 71.93 0.00 - - 11.899 - > 4 1.000 -2.986 - - 70.00 0.00 11.899 - > 5 1.000 -3.666 - - 70.00 0.00 11.899 - > 6 1.000 -3.087 - - 70.00 0.00 11.899 - > -------- -------- -------- -------- > Total: 210.00 0.00 210.00 0.00 > > ================================================================================ > | Branch Data > | > ================================================================================ > Brnch From To From Bus Injection To Bus Injection Loss (I^2 * Z) > # Bus Bus P (MW) Q (MVAr) P (MW) Q (MVAr) P (MW) Q > (MVAr) > ----- ----- ----- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- > -------- > 1 1 2 2.61 0.00 -2.61 0.00 0.000 0.00 > 2 1 4 26.06 0.00 -26.06 0.00 0.000 0.00 > 3 1 5 21.33 0.00 -21.33 0.00 0.000 0.00 > 4 2 3 -0.15 0.00 0.15 0.00 0.000 0.00 > 5 2 4 46.91 0.00 -46.91 0.00 0.000 0.00 > 6 2 5 19.59 0.00 -19.59 0.00 0.000 0.00 > 7 2 6 24.33 0.00 -24.33 0.00 0.000 0.00 > 8 3 5 22.75 0.00 -22.75 0.00 0.000 0.00 > 9 3 6 49.03 0.00 -49.03 0.00 0.000 0.00 > 10 4 5 2.97 0.00 -2.97 0.00 0.000 0.00 > 11 5 6 -3.37 0.00 3.37 0.00 0.000 0.00 > -------- > -------- > Total: 0.000 0.00 > > ================================================================================ > | Generation Constraints > | > ================================================================================ > Gen Bus Active Power Limits > # # Pmin mu Pmin Pg Pmax Pmax mu > ---- ----- ------- -------- -------- -------- ------- > 1 1 0.303 50.00 50.00 200.00 - > > De: bounce-119913926-12657...@list.cornell.edu > [mailto:bounce-119913926-12657...@list.cornell.edu] En nombre de Ray Zimmerman > Enviado el: jueves, 19 de noviembre de 2015 12:03 > Para: MATPOWER discussion forum > Asunto: Re: Question about LMP > > The LMPs for a DC OPF problem do incorporate any generator limits as well as > generation cost. Consider the case with no congestion, where the LMPs are > uniform at all nodes. For nodes with generators that are dispatched between > their lower and upper limits, the LMP equals their marginal cost of > generation. For a node with a generator at a binding upper (lower) limit, the > LMP will equal the marginal cost of generation plus (minus) the shadow price > on the binding upper (lower) generation constraint. > > Ray > >> On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:27 AM, Victor Hugo Hinojosa M. <victor.hinoj...@usm.cl >> <mailto:victor.hinoj...@usm.cl>> wrote: >> >> Dear Jovan and Sarmad, >> I agree with your comments about LMP. In this analysis I’m not considered >> the congestion. If the generation inequality constraints aren’t active, >> Matpower prints this information correctly, and It’s possible to realize >> different prices when the lines is congested. Sarmad, I’ve verified your >> idea. Despite the fact that the shadow price for the minimum or maximum is >> active, the LMP shown are the same for all buses. >> My question is about why LMP doesn’t include the Lagrange multipliers >> related to generation inequality constraints. I did a model using the dual >> problem for the DCOPF, and I realized that dual constraints are the prices >> for each buses. It’s very clear in those constraints that those “prices” >> take into account the marginal cost, the congestion cost through the partial >> transmission distribution factors (PTDF) and the generation constraints. >> In the technical literature for the DCOPF (losses are neglected), the LPM >> are modeled considering energy cost and congestion cost. However, in the >> book “Spot pricing of electricity” from F. Schweppe et all, authors include >> these shadow prices in order to compute the spot prices. >> I’d like to know your feedback about these comments. >> Regards, >> Vh >> >> De: bounce-119912654-12657...@list.cornell.edu >> <mailto:bounce-119912654-12657...@list.cornell.edu> >> [mailto:bounce-119912654-12657...@list.co >> <mailto:bounce-119912654-12657...@list.co>rnell.edu <http://rnell.edu/>] En >> nombre de Jovan Ilic >> Enviado el: jueves, 19 de noviembre de 2015 1:13 >> Para: MATPOWER discussion forum >> Asunto: Re: Question about LMP >> >> >> Dear Victor, >> >> If there is no congestion in the network, there is the same LMP at all the >> nodes. >> The LMP consists of loss, congestion, and energy costs. DCOPF has no >> losses, and if there is no congestion only the energy cost is accounted for. >> You can think of it as if since there is no congestion or loss cost the >> energy can >> be distributed to all nodes at the same price. >> >> Regards, >> Jovan Ilic >> >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Victor Hugo Hinojosa M. >> <victor.hinoj...@usm.cl <mailto:victor.hinoj...@usm.cl>> wrote: >> Dear Prof. Zimmerman, >> >> I have a question about Local Marginal Prices (LMP) that are shown in >> Matpower. >> >> The definition of the LMP is the marginal cost of supplying, at least cost, >> the next increment of electric demand at a specific location (node) on the >> electric power network, taking into account both supply (generation/import) >> bids and demand (load/export) offers and the physical aspects of the >> transmission system including transmission and other operational >> constraints. >> >> When it is performed a DCOPF, Matpower shows LMP for each bus considering >> the marginal cost (energy cost) and the congestion cost so that I'd like to >> know why the generation constraints (maximum and minimum power) aren't >> considered in the LMP. >> >> Thank you so much for your ideas and comments. >> >> Regards, >> >> Vh >> >> >> >> > >