Semua agama diciptakan adalah baik adanya... Semua agama sebenarnya adalah rangkuman ajaran/perbuatan dari Yesus (utk org Kristen/Katolik), Muhammad (Islam), Sidharta (Buddha). Mereka tdk pernah mengatakan...agama saya adalah.... Jadi agama adalah aturan2 dan rangkuman yg dibuat oleh manusia...
Cuma lucunya...yang buat manusia, yang mensalah tafsirkan juga manusia... Itulah sebabnya Tuhan tidak bosan2nya mengirimkan 'orang2Nya' ke dunia ini utk menjelaskan hal yg sama terus menerus... Semua agama CINTA DAMAI... Saya meskipun Katolik, tidak percaya bahwa Islam tidak Cinta damai... Sayangnya, seperti di masyarakat, dalam setiap agama ada saja yg salah mentafsirkan...(Dan ini tidak hanya di agama ISLAM saja, agama Kristen/Katolikpun ada...) Saya berani bertaruh, jika Muhammad masih hidup, pasti sedih melihat banyak pengikutnya yang menafsirkan hal yg salah... Saya berani bertaruh, jika Yesus masih hidup, pasti sedih melihat banyak ajaranya yg disalah gunakan (dan banyaknya munafik) Saya berani bertaruh, jika Sidartha masih hidup, pasti sedih melihat ajarannya tidak dilakukan oleh pengikutnya... Tapi, Mereka juga sangat berbangga pada sebagian pengikutnya yang bisa mengerti INTI/ESSENCE dari ajaran Mereka. Tanpa gembar-gembor...Tanpa menuding2 agama lain... Menurut pendapat saya, buat apa berdebat tentang agama lain.... Urusilah diri sendiri... Kalau diri sendiri sudah mengikuti 100% ajaran agamanya...Baru boleh menghimbau (tdk memaksa lho) orang2 yang kurang mengikuti apa yang dipilihnya... Kita hidup diberi kebebasan untuk memilih, buka kebebasan untuk memaksa orang lain... Biarlah Tuhan yang menghakimi kita ciptaannya (bukan manusia menghakimi manusia)... Saya jg pernah bertemu orang kristen yang menyatakan bahwa "hanya orang yang percaya YESUS akan diselamatkan" Saya tidak setuju !!! "Hanya Percaya" kalau tindakannya 'amburadul'...pasti tidak akan diselamatkan... PEACE...PEACE...PEACE... Kita dah pusing sama BBM dan perekonomian kita, ngapain sih bikin hidup tambah ruwet dengan ngomongin agama lain??? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dewa brata Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Mayapada Prana] Re: Allah or Jesus? maksudnya email ini apa? saya gak setuju dengan penindasan terhadap agama lain tapi saya juga adalah seorang muslim anda bertanya kenapa ada jihad? jika itu ditanyakan maka seharusnya imam itu bisa menjelaskan,bahwa jihad pantas dilakukan jika kita sudah terdesak.salah satu daripada penyebab jihad adalah ditekannya kehidupan beragama dan juga pengusiran dari kota kediaman tempat kita. tulisan itu berkata bagaimana jika paus menyatakan membunuh orang yang berkeyakinan lain? dan apa saudara pikir itu tak pernah dilakukan oleh paus?bagaimana dengan kisah penyerbuan tentara salib ke yerusalem yang diserukan oleh paus saat itu?apa itu bukan berarti penghancuran buat mereka yang beragama lain? belum perang saudara antar kristen sendiri?antara katolik dan protestan seperti terjadi di irlandia atau upaya penjajahan daerah daerah oleh spanyol dan portugis dengan tujuan melenyapkan bangsa moor (ditafsirkan sebagai seluruh umat islam dimanapun) saya gak menyukai perdebatan agama saya gak mau mendebat agama lain tapi saya juga tak suka agama saya dilecehkan terimakasih dewabrata manusia biasa --- In [email protected], "A. Setiadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in > the United States: ( because they have large families and they do > not abort the unborn) > > Allah or Jesus? by: Rick Mathes > > Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for > maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training > session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the > Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of > their belief systems. I was particularly interested in what the > Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the > basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, > time was provided for questions and answers. > > When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: > "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and > clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy War] against the > infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a > command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If > that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?" There > was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he > replied, "Nonbelievers!" > I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All > followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not > of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct? The > expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to > that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the > cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes." > "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul > commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley > ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!" > The Imam was speechless. > > I continued, "I also have a problem with being your friend when you > and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let > me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells > you to kill me in order to go to Heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to > love you because I am > going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?" You could have > heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. > > Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the > diversification-training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of > dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the > Muslim's > beliefs. I think everyone in the US (and Canada) should be > required to read this, but with the liberal justice system, liberal > media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized. > Please pass this on to all your email contacts. This is a true story > and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison > ministry. "I would hope you would share this with your entire email > addresses. They have a right to know what is going on in "Our" > United States of America..." And if this story offends any one, then > we have a serious problem. > > > > Hendro Herlambang > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have constructive thoughts, consoling words, compassionate acts. Peace & enlightenment be yours! - from guys at Mayapada Prana Yahoo! Groups Links Have constructive thoughts, consoling words, compassionate acts. Peace & enlightenment be yours! - from guys at Mayapada Prana Yahoo! 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