Wis ngono wae, kita serahkan kepada millister/netter yang menjawa yo mas,
setuju ora ? Siapa yang tahu : "Siapa Jalan Kebenaran itu?"
Salam yo mas :))) Rudy Prabowo
Dablex Scali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Lha yg gak mudheng itu sopo ?
Gak salah khan saya bilang dari awal kita harus membela yg benar ?
Karena Kebenaran itu pengertiannya lebih luas, sedangkan keadilan itu lebih
spesifik.
Siapa ya jalan kebenaran ? *garuk2x kepala*
Saya taunya sih, 'Jalan Swadaya, Jalan Sudirman, Jalan Hayam Wuruk dll', tapi
kalo Jalan Kebenaran saya baru denger tuh.
Wah, saya bodo nih untuk urusan gini, nyerah aja deh .
Menurut anda siapa "Jalan kebenaran" ?
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Rudy Prabowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Saya bilang :
Tidak adil berbanding langsung dengan tidak benar!!!
artinya keadilan berbanding langsung dengan kebenaran :)
Adil artinya tidak berat sebelah/tidak memihak; berpegang pd kebenaran. Jadi
keadilan merupakan sifat perbuatan yang adil.
Sedangkan benar adl tidak salah, sesuai sebagaimana mestinya/adanya. identik
dengan adil :))) Contoh Hakim memutuskan perkara itu dengan adil. Saksi2
memberikan kesaksiannya dengan benar. Nah bedakan kedua kalimat itu. Tapi
secara universal adil adalah bagian dari benar. Wis mudheng mas:)))
jadi Kebenaran adalah kondisi yg cocok dg keadaan yg sesungguhnya. Maka
kalau memang kalau tidak benar katakan tidak benar, jangan mencari kondisi
untuk pembenaran.
Siapa coba "Jalan Kebenaran" itu? Jawab dong???
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Dablex Scali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Keliru ????
Menurut anda kebenaran itu bagian dari keadilan atau keadilan itu bagian
dari kebenaran ?
Lebih luas mana sih pengertian adil dengan benar ?
Anda tanya 'Jalan Kebenaran' ?
Menurut anda sih pasti Mustikawati....bener gak ?
Keliru lagi dong ya ?...:P
Rudy Prabowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mas Duableg :)
Anda keliru lagi!
Yang harus kita bela semua orang yg diperlakukan tidak adil mas! TIDAK
ADIL.!!!
Mau kaya kek, mau miskin kek, wanita tua kek, muda kek pokoknya yg ada
kek-keknya itu yg diperlakukan tidak adil harus kita bela!!!! Ketrampilan
pemahaman anda harus ditingkatkan mas, dan yg sudah ada walaupun sedikit tetap
dipertahankan!!!
Kalau orang berlaku tidak adil artinya apa? Ya tindakannya tidak benar.
Coba memperkosa orang adil tidak? Menjarah milik orang yg tidak seiman
halal, adil tidak?=>> Ya 100% perbuatan itu tidak adil dong!!!
Tidak adil berbanding langsung dengan tidak benar!!! Padahal kita harus
mengikuti jalan "Kebenaran". Coba Siapa sih "Jalan Kebenaran" itu???
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Dablex Scali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yang harus kita bela adalah kebenaran, bukan wanita, tua, kaya dll..
Rudy Prabowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Biarpun ruang kita beda,
kita harus bela kaum wanita toh, setuju ngk???
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iya...... dan anda juga mungkin saja ada di satu
ruangan, yg untungnya (buat saya) bukan diruangan yg sama dengan saya :D
syahrasi
----- Original Message -----
From: Rudy Prabowo
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Mayapada Prana] Sungguh Kasihan kaum wanita Islam
diperlakukan tidak adil
Ya saya tahu kok paradigma situ memang diruang itu:)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nggak kok, saya ngerti apa yg anda maksud :)
Udah deh, trik-trik seperti ini sudah basbang, basi bangettt nget nget
syahrasi
----- Original Message -----
From: Rudy Prabowo
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Mayapada Prana] Sungguh Kasihan kaum wanita Islam
diperlakukan tidak adil
Anda kan sudah berpikiran negatif!
Justru saya membela kaum wanita Islam yg diperlakukan tidak adil,
coba baca yang penuh konsentrasi dan dimengerti:)))
<Anda Keliru besar cara menilainya>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tuh kan akhirnya ketauan juga :p
katanya netral, ternyata sepaham dengan ibu Mus kita tercinta
anda munafik ahh
----- Original Message -----
From: Rudy Prabowo
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:38 PM
Subject: [Mayapada Prana] Sungguh Kasihan kaum wanita Islam
diperlakukan tidak adil
Sungguh Kasihan kaum wanita Islam diperlakukan tidak adil.
Mereka tidak berdaya dan pasrah begitu saja, dimanakah sang
Malaikat penolong itu???
Siapa yang setuju dan yang tidak setuju dengan perlakukan
sedemikian rupa, mohon masukan ke milister sebagai CURHAT anda demi keadilan
dan kebenaran!!!
Kenyataan dunia adalah ada manusia yang senang jadi budak dan tak
usah mempunyai pendapat sendiri, semuanya diurus dan diatur oleh cult.
Akibatnya mereka berkomentar yg sukar diterima oleh akal sehat kita
:)))
Walaupun wanita diangkat second class dalam Islam, tapi para
wanita itu menurut aja, tidak ada lagi persamaan hak antara kaum priya dan
wanita..
Coba lihat dinegara Saudi Arab tempat lahir islam.
Pada upacara kenegaraan . Tak ada satupun wanita diantaranya. Dalam
satu Arab TV program dalam perayaan. yang menari2 semua adalah laki2.
Wanita tak boleh nyetir mobil. Wanita tak boleh keluar negeri
sendirian.
Kalau ini bukan oppression on woman , then what
That is so sad. Yes there are people like to be slave and be
oppressed.
Kadang2 kita terngiang-ngiang akan lagu pembukaan : Betapa malang
nasibku, semenjak dikandung ibu.................
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