>That must be Samba, try re-compiling without it if you don't need it, or
>else fix your system such that DNS resolution will work irrespectively of
> whether you've got an Internet connection or not.

OMG !! Have you started that criminal activity too:
 auto-connecting the user's system to your http-server, without his permission ?

Why does M$ call the disabling of the Inet as "Airplane mode ON",
instead of < Inet connections OFF> ?
To make it sound more positive?




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>    1. No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
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>    2. Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
>       connection (Yury V. Zaytsev)
>    3. Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
>       connection (Yury V. Zaytsev)
>    4. Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
>       connection (Felix Miata)
>    5. Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
>       connection (Joerg Thuemmler)
>    6. Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
>       connection (Yury V. Zaytsev)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 08:19:09 +0100
> From: Joerg Thuemmler <lis...@vordruckleitverlag.de>
> To: mc@gnome.org
> Subject: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
>       connection
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> Hi,
>
> I'm new here and as many others do, I will start with a question ;-)
>
> Maybe it's a stupid, well known thing, but if I'm using a newer version
> of mc (e.g. 4.8.13) and I'm not root, I have no subshell, C-o works, but
> immediately vanishes if I press a key. Same thing with mc -U. If I'm
> root, subshell works, setting /usr/bin/mc setuid works too, but is not
> wanted...
> Is there a user group I have to be in or some other user rights
> limitation I have to change?
> Older versions (4.7...) don't show this behavior.
>
> I use Opensuse linuxes, but seems to me, it isn't related to this.
>
> Another thing is that mc start is delayed, if no internet connection
> exists, seems it's looking for something, maybe updates... no clue, why
> and don't know since which version this is the behavior.
>
> Thx for any answer
>
> cu joerg
>
> --
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:26:04 +0100 (CET)
> From: "Yury V. Zaytsev" <y...@shurup.com>
> To: Joerg Thuemmler <lis...@vordruckleitverlag.de>
> Cc: mc@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
>       connection
> Message-ID: <alpine.lrh.2.20.1612200924140.1...@vps.zaytsev.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote:
>
>> Another thing is that mc start is delayed, if no internet connection
>> exists,
>> seems it's looking for something, maybe updates... no clue, why and don't
>>
>> know since which version this is the behavior.
>
> That must be Samba, try re-compiling without it if you don't need it, or
> else fix your system such that DNS resolution will work irrespectively of
> whether you've got an Internet connection or not.
>
> --
> Sincerely yours,
> Yury V. Zaytsev
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:35:49 +0100 (CET)
> From: "Yury V. Zaytsev" <y...@shurup.com>
> To: Joerg Thuemmler <lis...@vordruckleitverlag.de>
> Cc: mc@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
>       connection
> Message-ID: <alpine.lrh.2.20.1612200935050.1...@vps.zaytsev.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote:
>
>> Maybe it's a stupid, well known thing, but if I'm using a newer version
>> of mc (e.g. 4.8.13) and I'm not root, I have no subshell, C-o works, but
>> immediately vanishes if I press a key. Same thing with mc -U. If I'm
>> root, subshell works, setting /usr/bin/mc setuid works too, but is not
>> wanted... Is there a user group I have to be in or some other user
>> rights limitation I have to change?
>
> Apparently the shell you have as a user is not detected properly.
>
> --
> Sincerely yours,
> Yury V. Zaytsev
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 03:52:35 -0500
> From: Felix Miata <mrma...@earthlink.net>
> To: mc@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
>       connection
> Message-ID: <845fa369-53f3-d530-0e89-af2f29013...@earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Joerg Thuemmler composed on 2016-12-20 08:19 (UTC+0100):
> ...
>> I use Opensuse linuxes, but seems to me, it isn't related to this.
>
> How old is your openSUSE?
>
>> Another thing is that mc start is delayed, if no internet connection
>> exists, seems it's looking for something, maybe updates... no clue, why
>> and don't know since which version this is the behavior.
>
> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=824729 may be what you see
> (hostname related). IIRC, you can avoid the delay by making sure /etc/hosts
>
> properly contains your hostname.
>
> I'm pretty sure you can use a newer mc version from a supported openSUSE
> release
> without any issues, except for latest, 4.8.18, which is broken.
> --
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:16:42 +0100
> From: Joerg Thuemmler <lis...@vordruckleitverlag.de>
> To: mc@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
>       connection
> Message-ID: <5859050a.70...@vordruckleitverlag.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> Am 20.12.2016 um 09:35 schrieb Yury V. Zaytsev:
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe it's a stupid, well known thing, but if I'm using a newer
>>> version of mc (e.g. 4.8.13) and I'm not root, I have no subshell, C-o
>>> works, but immediately vanishes if I press a key. Same thing with mc
>>> -U. If I'm root, subshell works, setting /usr/bin/mc setuid works too,
>>> but is not wanted... Is there a user group I have to be in or some
>>> other user rights limitation I have to change?
>>
>> Apparently the shell you have as a user is not detected properly.
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> thx. Do you know, how mc detects the shell? It's in both cases (root and
> user) classical login with bash, never manipulated there anything...
>
> cu jth
> --
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:45:42 +0100 (CET)
> From: "Yury V. Zaytsev" <y...@shurup.com>
> To: Joerg Thuemmler <lis...@vordruckleitverlag.de>
> Cc: mc@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
>       connection
> Message-ID: <alpine.lrh.2.20.1612201142540.1...@vps.zaytsev.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote:
>
>> thx. Do you know, how mc detects the shell?
>
> https://github.com/MidnightCommander/mc/blob/0cc22928afbc6e23eb0fa5c85fd95518d8151edc/lib/shell.c
>
>> It's in both cases (root and user) classical login with bash, never
>> manipulated there anything...
>
> I seriously doubt it, because otherwise it would have worked out of the
> box. A good test is to create a brand new fresh user, log in as this new
> user and start mc. If it works, then it means that you've botched your
> user profile. If it doesn't work, maybe you've botched system profile.
>
> --
> Sincerely yours,
> Yury V. Zaytsev
>
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