We've tried out the Rijksmuseum site and found that the 
free image for personal use comes through as a compressed JPG of about 1 Mb or 
less, 
though it could be that some works have larger master images -- hard to tell.  
Any scholarly or commercial use just bounces you to their normal image services 
request page.

All
 of our images are available for download at a modest side (1536 pixels 
on the long side) if they're in the public domain, licensed, or 3D (CC-BY 
license for the latter). Also done quietly, as others have noted.

Deb Wythe
Brooklyn Museum

deborahwythe at hotmail.com



deborahwythe at hotmail.com

> From: cathryng at Princeton.EDU
> To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
> Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 12:58:44 +0000
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Permissions
> 
> An addendum to this thread is the fact that many institutions, Princeton 
> among them, are more quietly adopting an open access to public domain images 
> policy - I'd be interested in a show of hands.
> 
> Cathryn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of 
> David Green
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 8:48 AM
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Permissions
> 
> Absolutely agree, of course. And see today's NYT article about the 
> Rijksmuseum's contribution to the way forward: 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/29/arts/design/museums-mull-public-use-of-online-art-images.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130529&_r=0
> 
> "We're a public institution, and so the art and objects we have are, in a 
> way, everyone's property," said [Taco Dibbits, the director of collections at 
> the Rijksmuseum,] in an interview. "'With the Internet, it's so difficult to 
> control your copyright or use of images that we decided we'd rather people 
> use a very good high-resolution image of the 'Milkmaid' from the Rijksmuseum 
> rather than using a very bad reproduction," he said, referring to that 
> Vermeer painting from around 1660."
> 
> David Green
> redgen at mac.com
> @redgen
> 203-520-9155 
> 
> 
> On May 27, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Kenneth Hamma <khamma at me.com> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks, Peter.
> > 
> > It is dismaying that anyone could not imagine that  there's any way around 
> > the wide variety of charges and procedures that collections  - perhaps 
> > sometimes thoughtlessly? - interpose between themselves the public for whom 
> > they are stewards.  For those, here are some starting points.
> > 
> > https://images.nga.gov/en/page/show_home_page.html
> > 
> > http://britishart.yale.edu/collections/using-collections/image-use
> > 
> > http://www.britishmuseum.org/about_this_site/terms_of_use/free_image_s
> > ervice.aspx
> > 
> > https://www.lacma.org/about/contact-us/terms-use
> > 
> > http://thewalters.org/rights-reproductions.aspx
> > 
> > Knowing that it can be bothersome to visit websites and read, let me copy 
> > the simple image rights/use statement from the Walters Art Museum:
> > 
> > All photography on our website(s) is governed by Creative Commons Licensing 
> > and can be used without cost or specific permission. Artworks in the 
> > photographs are in the public domain due to age. The photographs of 
> > two-dimensional objects have also been released into the public domain. 
> > Photographs of three-dimensional objects and all descriptions have been 
> > released under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported 
> > License and the GNU Free Documentation License.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > ken
> > 
> > Kenneth Hamma
> > 
> > Yale Center for British Art
> > kenneth.hamma at yale.edu
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On May 27, 2013, at 7:05 AM, Peter B. Hirtle <pbh6 at cornell.edu> wrote:
> > 
> >> For a different perspective from a different field, MCN-L readers might be 
> >> interested in a forthcoming paper from John Overholt addressing the future 
> >> of special collections in libraries.  It is called "Five theses on the 
> >> future of special collections," and a preprint is found at 
> >> http://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/10601790/overholt.pdf.  
> >> 
> >> One of his five theses speaks precisely to the issue of permissions.  It 
> >> begins this way:
> >> 
> >> The future of special collections is openness.
> >> 
> >> We are not the creators of our collections; we are their stewards. They 
> >> were entrusted to us to preserve them, certainly, but preservation without 
> >> use is an empty victory. It ought to be our primary purpose at all times 
> >> to minimize barriers to use, so it is all the more shameful when we 
> >> interpose such barriers ourselves, not out of concern for the health of 
> >> the collections, but out of the misguided belief that we are entitled to 
> >> control, even to monetize, their use. When we claim copyright over our 
> >> digital collections, or impose permission fees or licensing terms on 
> >> users, we are arguably misrepresenting the law, and certainly violating 
> >> one of the central ethical tenets of the profession: to promote the free 
> >> dissemination of information.
> >> 
> >> It would seem to me that image permissions would be much simplified if 
> >> only permission of the copyright owner had to be secured (and then only if 
> >> the use was not a fair use).
> >> 
> >> Peter Hirtle
> >> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On 
> >>> Behalf 
> >>> Of Deborah Wythe
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 3:59 PM
> >>> To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
> >>> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Permissions
> >>> 
> >>> I don't think there's any way around the wide variety of charges and 
> >>> procedures, but I was struck by the frustration of the writer, who 
> >>> clearly had never done image acquisition before. It's a skill, just 
> >>> like any other. Filling in for our R&R coordinator, I've learned 
> >>> just how many emails it can take to get all the information we need to 
> >>> help them.
> >>> 
> >>> I've often wondered if there was a way to connect museum staff with 
> >>> art history grad programs to get this topic on their curriculum. 
> >>> Shouldn't every budding writer have a brief tutorial on copyright, 
> >>> image acquisition, image quality, etc?
> >>> 
> >>> Then again, when I was in grad school and suggested to my advisor 
> >>> that we put together a guide to doing primary source research, he 
> >>> put me off, saying that we should all be figuring it out ourselves 
> >>> and that was one way they sorted the wheat from the chaff.
> >>> 
> >>> I won't address the differing policies and prices -- that's a 
> >>> different (and difficult topic) -- but putting chocolate on our fee 
> >>> schedules is an interesting concept.
> >>> 
> >>> Deborah Wythe
> >>> Brooklyn Museumdeborahwythe at hotmail.com
> >>> 
> >>>> From: lesleyeharris at comcast.net
> >>>> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 12:06:38 -0400
> >>>> To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
> >>>> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Permissions
> >>>> 
> >>>> Whoops--article is at
> >>> http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/comment/opinion/opinion-snap-
> >>> decisions/2003969.article.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On May 24, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Lesley Ellen Harris
> >>> <lesleyeharris at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> This article on obtaining permissions from museums will be of 
> >>>> interest to
> >>> MCN members.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Lesley
> >>>> 
> >>>> lesley at copyrightlaws.com
> >>>> www.copyrightlaws.com
> >>>> 
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