Well said, Deborah.

I think that the current argument against DVD storage right now is that the
current format of DVDs is about to hit its first bump on the road to
obsolesence. Rumor mill says that the makers of digital media storage
formats are about to release a media type to replace the current DVD with
one with even higher storage capacity. I'm not certain if this format is
just an even more compressed type of DVD disk or if it's a completely
different duck. Anyone know for sure? But while I don't believe that the DVD
will become obsolete within 3-5 years, I suspect that we may have problems
in 10 years.

Personally, I'm more in favor of hard drive and tape backups, since those
seem to have more "staying power" thus far than other forms of storage.

Perian Sully
Collection Database and Records Administrator
Judah L. Magnes Museum
2911 Russell Street
Berkeley, CA 94705


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deborah Wythe" <deborahwy...@hotmail.com>
To: <mcn-l@mcn.edu>
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: archival storage of CDs


> For anyone looking for "archival" storage of image (or any files) on CDs
or
> DVDs, consider this: while manufacturers make various claims for longevity
> of the media, there is no assurance that the equipment will be available
to
> read that particular disc in 25 or 50 years (or even 5 or 10). Remember 8
> track tapes? Remember 8" floppies or even 5.25" floppies?
>
> Keep in mind, also, that there's a strong likelihood that you're going to
> have to migrate to a new "standard" file format down the road. Where is it
> easier to manage your files--on a big network drive or on hundreds
> (thousands?) of CDs, DVDs, and other removable media? A stable, secure
> network, good file management, regular tape backups, decent metadata, and
> error checking software will keep them as safe as we can hope for at this
> early stage in the digital world.
>
> You can store CDs and DVDs in stable, climate controlled storage, in
> acid-free sleeves or non-reactive plastic cases, but none of this will
make
> them an "archival" backup. Archival means permanent, or as near as we can
> get to it. It's pretty easy to define what makes a paper document
"archival"
> and store it in such a way that it'll be usable for the next century (at
> least). We're in the early stages of defining  "archival" for digital
files:
> keep your eye on what's going on in the digital preservation world and
> follow in the big guys' footsteps as much as you can.
>
> [The former archivist will now step off her soapbox!]
> Deb Wythe
>
> Deborah Wythe
> Brooklyn Museum
> Head, Digital Collections and Services
> 200 Eastern Parkway
> Brooklyn, NY 11238
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> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: <les...@copyrightlaws.com>
> Reply-To: mcn-l@mcn.edu
> To: mcn-l@mcn.edu
> Subject: RE: archival storage of CDs
> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:16:00 0000
>
> Why aren't dvd's good for storage?
>
> Lesley
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:  "Han, Yan" <h...@u.library.arizona.edu>
> Subj:  RE: archival storage of CDs
> Date:  Mon Jan 2, 2006 7:32 pm
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> To:  mcn-l@mcn.edu
>
> Why do you want to use CDs to store images. The maximum size of a CD is
700
> MB, only good for a few digital images.
>
> We use hard drives only. (Forget about DVDs,they are not good for
long-term
> storage).
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jansonius, Remko (Vizcaya)
[mailto:remko.janson...@vizcayamuseum.org]
> Sent: 2005-12-30 ( ÇÆÚÎå) 8:18
> To: mcn-l@mcn.edu
> Cc:
> Subject: archival storage of CDs
>
> After a year on the job I have collected loads of digital images -
> scanned, shot, donated. It's time to put the master files in storage.
>
> Is there a general consensus on what materials to use? What type of CDs?
> Is there a specific pro or con to use CD envelops (compacter) or jewel
> boxes (more rigid)? Does anyone have good experiences with specific CD
> drawers/boxes/cabinets? Is there anything I am overlooking here?
>
>
>
> Any and all comments are appreciated!
>
>
>
> ... and a good new year to all!
>
>
>
>
>
> Remko Jansonius
>
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