>>Has anyone ever tried them in a VERY noisy place, like a subway >>train or a railway train? I used my MDR-NC10 on the Eurostar from London to Brussels (which I suppose is quite quiet as trains go), before I had to have the Dbass set to 2 and the volume at 8 before I could hear anything much at all. With the NC10s I turned the Dbass off, and had the volume at 4 and the sound was great. Part of the noise cancelling effect is because the earbuds on the NC10 seal your ears. However the earbud sound quality without noise cancelling is also pretty good (better than those supplied with my MZ-EP11) Thoroughly recommend them. Adam. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------- To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]