sick of waiting for the arm strap from sony's rebate thing i stuck my r700 in the back pocket of my workout pants(it has a zipper so it was safe) the virually unshockable MD as sony advertises lasted a whole block before gshock and the buffer finally gave up hope. so don't keep your MD unit there, once i finally took it out and held onto it it worked great. marc ----------------------------------------------------------------- To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]