On 8/1/22 13:27, budi...@geodipa.co.id wrote:
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Mohon tidak posting dengan top posting style di milis ini, selalu
gunakan bottom (interleaved) posting untuk memudahkan pembacaan.
https://blog.joelesler.net/2009/12/bottom-posting.html
The particular part to pay attention to is in RFC1855 --
"- If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context. This will make
sure readers understand when they start to read your response.
Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the
postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a
response to a message before seeing the original. Giving context
helps everyone. But do not include the entire original!"
http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/on_top
The fundamental source of poor email style is the practice of quoting
the entire message you’re replying to. If that’s what you do, then it
doesn’t matter whether you put your response at the top or bottom. In
fact, if you’re going to quote the entire message, top-posting probably
is better. But both are poor form.
Writing an email is like writing an article. Only quote the relevant
parts, interspersing your new remarks between the quoted passages. Don’t
quote anything at all from the original message if you don’t have to.
Does it take more time to edit the portions of quoted text included in
your reply? Yes. So does spell-checking and proofreading. It also takes
time to shower and brush your teeth each day.
Hanya bottom replies yang bisa memanfaatkan inline reply dalam diskusi,
top posting itu mirip SMS (Short Message Services) atau Messenger chat
hanya untuk 1 topik saja
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style)
Agar outlook bisa otomatis menggunakan Internet Quote Style yang
diperlukan saat inline reply maka ubah settingnya seperti ini
https://www.slipstick.com/outlook/email/to-use-internet-style-quoting/
Salin selected text yang akan di quote ulang, yang sesuai contex, ke atas
signature lalu hapus quote text yang mulai dari baris "-----Original
Message-----" kebawah s.d Subject: xxxx
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Terkait error SSL dari Outlook/ HP yaitu invalid SSL dan mengarah ke SSL
sebelumnya yg expired.
Itu terjadi karena SSL di mail server (tcp port tidak aktif, walau SSL
di webmail sudah aktif.
Periksa setting SSL di MDaemon mail.geodipa.co.id, harusnya seperti ini
settingnya untuk outlook user yang masih pakai SSL, belum pakai TLS
(kecuali port 587 di outlook versi terakhir)
Koneksi antar mail server pakainya SMTP/TLS.
http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/mdaemon/22.0/ssl_mdaemon.html
[x] Enable SSL, STARTTLS, and STLS
[x] Enable the dedicated SSL ports for SMTP, IMAP, POP3 servers
[x] SMTP server sends mail using STARTTLS when possible
[x] SMTP server requires STARTTLS on MSA port
Select certificate to use for SSL:
[x] Sectigo CA SSL
http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/mdaemon/22.0/wc--web_server.html
[x] Webmail runs using external web server (IIS, Apache, etc)
$ openssl s_client -connect mail.geodipa.co.id:465
CONNECTED(00000003)
write:errno=0
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no peer certificate available
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No client certificate CA names sent
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SSL handshake has read 0 bytes and written 310 bytes
Verification: OK
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$ openssl s_client -connect mail.geodipa.co.id:993
CONNECTED(00000003)
write:errno=104
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no peer certificate available
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No client certificate CA names sent
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$ openssl s_client -connect mail.geodipa.co.id:993
CONNECTED(00000003)
write:errno=0
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no peer certificate available
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No client certificate CA names sent
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SSL handshake has read 0 bytes and written 310 bytes
Verification: OK
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$ openssl s_client -connect mail.geodipa.co.id:443
CONNECTED(00000003)
depth=2 C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST
Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority
verify return:1
depth=1 C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = Sectigo
Limited, CN = Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA
verify return:1
depth=0 CN = *.geodipa.co.id
verify return:1
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Certificate chain
0 s:CN = *.geodipa.co.id
i:C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = Sectigo Limited,
CN = Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA
1 s:C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = Sectigo Limited,
CN = Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA
i:C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST
Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority
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$ openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect mail.geodipa.co.id:25
CONNECTED(00000003)
Didn't find STARTTLS in server response, trying anyway...
140348286178624:error:1408F10B:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong
version number:../ssl/record/ssl3_record.c:331:
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no peer certificate available
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No client certificate CA names sent
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SSL handshake has read 304 bytes and written 343 bytes
Verification: OK
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$ openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect mail.geodipa.co.id:587
CONNECTED(00000003)
Didn't find STARTTLS in server response, trying anyway...
139935967864128:error:1408F10B:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong
version number:../ssl/record/ssl3_record.c:331:
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no peer certificate available
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No client certificate CA names sent
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SSL handshake has read 298 bytes and written 343 bytes
Verification: OK
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syafril
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