On 3/8/23 18:04, Aulia Rahman Adi wrote:

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Mohon tidak posting dengan top posting style di milis ini, selalu
gunakan bottom (interleaved) posting untuk memudahkan pembacaan.

https://blog.joelesler.net/2009/12/bottom-posting.html

The particular part to pay attention to is in RFC1855 --

"- If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context. This will make
sure readers understand when they start to read your response.
Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the
postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a
response to a message before seeing the original. Giving context
helps everyone. But do not include the entire original!"

Inline reply (Interleaved reply, bottom reply) itu seperti ini

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette#Replies

Inline reply butuh pemangkasan kutipan teks yang tidak sesuai konteks agar mail mudah dibaca recipient, disamping penggunakan Internet Quote Style (ada penanda/ tag > didepan semua baris teks kutipan ulang)

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette#Trimming
https://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.1

Untuk memangkas (hapus) text hanya perlu ketangkasan menggunakan mouse dan atau keyboard.

https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001669.htm

di MDaemon webmail bisa pakai shortcut key

http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/wc/22.0/shortcut_keys.html

Agar saat reply otomatis menggunakan Internet Quote Style, maka ubah sedikit setting di webmail ssb:

Dari menu options | Compose

http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/wc/22.0/options_compose.html

[ ] HTML Compose

Replying and Forwarding

Attribution of original message:

[x] Custom format : On %SENTDATEANDTIME%, %SENDER% wrote:


When replying to a message
[x] Prefix each line of the original message

Prefix each line of the original message: >

Assign Signatures
Replying Signature: no signature
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Berikut smtp-out log :

Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:45.338: 03: --> STARTTLS
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:45.341: 02: <-- 220 2.7.0 Ready to start TLS

Setting log nya tidak bagus, merepotkan mencari transaksi dari log.
Mestinya session-ID diaktifkan.

http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/mdaemon/23.0/log_options_2.html

[x] Log ID string in mail session logs
Click this check box if you wish to include [%d:%d] ID strings in session logs.

Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:45.666: 01: Sending 
<c:\mdaemon\queues\remote\pd35000158544.msg> to [113.20.31.189]
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:45.696: 01: Transfer Complete
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:46.575: 02: <-- 250 2.6.0 Ok, message saved <Message-ID: 
<wc20230302022934.450...@reindosyariah.co.id>>


Mail sudah sukses terkirim ke recipient MX domain @bumida.co.id.

Unique Message ID: 202303020230490099367
Subject: 23FDACMQ Re: OFFER PLACING FAC TGPD 2023020956012 an. drg. GINA TRIANA
From:  '"iman"' <i...@reindosyariah.co.id>
To:  andr...@bumida.co.id,kresn...@bumida.co.id,teknik_syar...@bumida.co.id
Date received:  Thu Mar 2, 2023, 09:30:00 WIB
Message size:  39.23 KB
Threat: Policy
Category:       SPF Error[Global]


Error nya tidak specific sehingga kemungkinannya ada 2:

1. Saat meneruskan ke back office server (server yang menyimpan user mailbox) gagal karena backoffice server tidak trusted SMTPrelay esa1.sonicwall.id [43.250.77.5].

2. Salah satu recipient melakukan mail autoforward ke external-account lain di internet, dan ditolak karena backoffice server tidak mendukung SPF forwarding.


Dalam hal terjadi seperti itu mestinya original sender i...@reindosyariah.co.id terima DSN/Bounce notification dari esa1.sonicwall.id (untuk problem no 1) atau dari server *.bumida.co.id (untuk problem no 2).
Minta sender i...@reindosyariah.co.id untuk memeriksanya.
Di DSN message itu mestinya ada informasi yang lebih rinci mengenai problem persisnya.



Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:51.387: ----------
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.217: [52418341] REMOTE message: pd35005257628.msg
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.217: [52418341] * Session 52418341; child 0012
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.217: [52418341] * From: i...@reindosyariah.co.id
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.217: [52418341] * To: ag...@reindosyariah.co.id
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.217: [52418341] * Subject: 23FDACMQ Re: OFFER PLACING 
FAC TGPD 2023020956012 an. drg. GINA TRIANA
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.217: [52418341] * Message-ID: 
<wc20230302022934.450...@reindosyariah.co.id>
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.217: [52418341] * Size: 38478; 
<f:\share\mdaemon\queues\remote\pd35005257628.msg>
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.218: [52418341] * Route slip host: bumida.co.id
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.218: [52418341] * Route slip port: 25
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.220: [52418341] Resolving TXT record for 
_mta-sts.bumida.co.id (DNS Server: 113.20.31.186)...
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.262: [52418341] No MTA-STS TXT record found
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.278: [52418341] Resolving MX record for bumida.co.id 
(DNS Server: 113.20.31.186)...
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.298: [52418341] * P=000 S=000 D=bumida.co.id TTL=(5) 
MX=[esa1.sonicwall.id]
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.298: [52418341] Attempting SMTP connection to 
esa1.sonicwall.id
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.299: [52418341] Resolving A record for 
esa1.sonicwall.id (DNS Server: 113.20.31.186)...
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.359: [52418341] * D=esa1.sonicwall.id TTL=(5) 
A=[43.250.77.5]
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.359: [52418341] Attempting SMTP connection to 
43.250.77.5:25
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.360: [52418341] Waiting for socket connection...
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.364: [52418341] * Connection established 
113.20.31.189:41249 --> 43.250.77.5:25
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.364: [52418341] Waiting for protocol to start...
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.368: [52418341] <-- 220 esa1.sonicwall.id ESMTP 
Enterprise Email Security
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.368: [52418341] --> EHLO dip33.dutaint.com
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.372: [52418341] <-- 250-esa1.sonicwall.id
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.372: [52418341] <-- 250-8BITMIME
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.372: [52418341] <-- 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.372: [52418341] <-- 250-DSN
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.372: [52418341] <-- 250-STARTTLS
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.372: [52418341] <-- 250 SIZE 100000000
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.372: [52418341] --> STARTTLS
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.375: [52418341] <-- 220 2.2.0 Ready to start TLS
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:49.483: [52418341] SSL negotiation successful (TLS 1.2, 
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P256)
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.036: [52418341] SSL certificate is valid (matches 
esa1.sonicwall.id and is signed by recognized CA)
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.037: [52418341] --> EHLO dip33.dutaint.com
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.039: [52418341] <-- 250-esa1.sonicwall.id
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.039: [52418341] <-- 250-8BITMIME
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.039: [52418341] <-- 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.039: [52418341] <-- 250-DSN
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.039: [52418341] <-- 250 SIZE 100000000
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.039: [52418341] --> MAIL 
From:<prvs=1425dfb911=i...@reindosyariah.co.id> SIZE=38478
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.042: [52418341] <-- 250 2.1.0 MAIL ok
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.042: [52418341] --> RCPT To:<andr...@bumida.co.id>
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.045: [52418341] <-- 250 2.1.5 <andr...@bumida.co.id> ok
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.045: [52418341] --> RCPT To:<kresn...@bumida.co.id>
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.048: [52418341] <-- 250 2.1.5 <kresn...@bumida.co.id> ok
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.048: [52418341] --> RCPT 
To:<teknik_syar...@bumida.co.id>
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.049: [52418341] <-- 250 2.1.5 
<teknik_syar...@bumida.co.id> ok
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.049: [52418341] --> DATA
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.051: [52418341] <-- 354 3.0.0 End Data with 
<CR><LF>.<CR><LF>
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.051: [52418341] Sending 
<f:\share\mdaemon\queues\remote\pd35005257628.msg> to [43.250.77.5]
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:50.055: [52418341] Transfer Complete
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:52.015: [52418341] <-- 250 2.6.0 Message Accepted
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:52.015: [52418341] --> QUIT
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:52.027: [52418341] <-- 221 2.0.0 esa1.sonicwall.id says 
goodbye; final session=202303020230490099367
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:52.027: [52418341] SMTP session successful (Bytes in/out: 
9933/40480)
Thu 2023-03-02 09:30:52.027: ----------



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