On 23/03/23 05.47, Bambang Setiawan via Mdaemon-L wrote:

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Inline reply (Interleaved reply) itu seperti ini

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette#Replies

Yahoo webmail terbaru memang susah pakai inline reply, jadi pakaipakai akun yahoo gunakan email client yang inline reply friendly macam thunderbird, sea monkey.
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Apakah ini terjadi kalau original sendernya dari c saja?
Kalau original sender dari (misalkan) yahoo.com family atau dari
gmail.com juga sama masalahnya?

dalam kasus kami selain dari @ericsson.com sementara ini ada dari 3 domain yang 
kasusnya sama pak
dari @bpjs-kesehatan.go.id, @pandulogistics.com dan @gmail.com


Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:30.786: [38664547] *  Forwarded from: 
lili.sulia...@persada.id
Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:30.786: [38664547] *  From: mfauzan1...@gmail.com
Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:30.786: [38664547] *  To: lili.sulia...@gmail.com
Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:30.786: [38664547] *  Message-ID: 
<CAMXAMQ9C=zs1fwzdeno5vhbw-3mfn3ofbo382yoc4am2q9p...@mail.gmail.com>

Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:34.159: [38664547] <-- 552-5.7.0 This message was blocked 
because its content presents a potential
Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:34.159: [38664547] <-- 552-5.7.0 security issue. Please 
visit
Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:34.159: [38664547] <-- 552-5.7.0  
https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BlockedMessage to review our
Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:34.159: [38664547] <-- 552 5.7.0 message content and 
attachment content guidelines. 
t75-20020a63784e000000b00502d7941026si15745375pgc.442 - gsmtp


Mail ini ditolak bukan karena masalah "policy reason" (DMARC), tatapi karena masalah attachment content. Coba cari transaksi penerimaan mail ini di smtp-in log, apa benar dikirim melalui server *.googlemail.com.

Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:30.676: [38664538] *  Forwarded from: 
yeni.yuli...@persada.id
Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:30.676: [38664538] *  From: 
cindy.nata...@bpjs-kesehatan.go.id
Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:30.676: [38664538] *  To: yeni.pers...@gmail.com

Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:30.814: [38664550] *  Forwarded from: m.tary...@persada.id
Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:30.814: [38664550] *  From: 
mssparepart....@pandulogistics.com
Thu 2023-03-23 05:33:30.814: [38664550] *  To: muhammadtaryad...@gmail.com

Tue 2023-03-21 14:33:01.976: [38629321] *  Forwarded from: m.tary...@persada.id
Tue 2023-03-21 14:33:01.976: [38629321] *  From: ms.isat.sparep...@ericsson.com
Tue 2023-03-21 14:33:01.976: [38629321] *  To: muhammadtaryad...@gmail.com


Ketiganya punya kesamaan rejection:

1. Oleh Gmail

Tue 2023-03-21 14:33:04.884: [38629321] <-- 550-5.7.26 Unauthenticated email 
from ericsson.com is not accepted due to
Tue 2023-03-21 14:33:04.884: [38629321] <-- 550-5.7.26 domain's DMARC policy. 
Please contact the administrator of
Tue 2023-03-21 14:33:04.884: [38629321] <-- 550-5.7.26 ericsson.com domain if 
this was a legitimate mail. Please visit
Tue 2023-03-21 14:33:04.884: [38629321] <-- 550-5.7.26 
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to learn about the
Tue 2023-03-21 14:33:04.884: [38629321] <-- 550 5.7.26 DMARC initiative. l17-20020a170902f69100b001a179347bf6si13366189plg.474 - gsmtp


yang mengindikasikan DMARC forwarding tidak berjalan benar.
Apakah DKIM sign diaktifkan di server mail.persada.id?

http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/mdaemon/23.0/security--dkim_sign.html

[x] Sign eligible outbound messages using DKIM

Perlihatkan original message header semua mail yang bounce tersebut kesini, atau posting kesini dengan akun @persada.id agar saya bisa lihat hasil diagnosis list server ini terhadap protocol SPF/DKIM/DMARC.

Untuk saat ini dihapus dulu DNS DK record.

$ host -v -t txt _domainkey.persada.id

;; ANSWER SECTION:
_domainkey.persada.id.  50      IN      TXT     "o=~"


2. Oleh smrthost iforte.net.id


Tue 2023-03-21 14:33:05.098: [38629321] Sending 
<c:\mdaemon\queues\remote\pd50001447777.msg> to [202.51.104.5]
Tue 2023-03-21 14:33:11.911: [38629321] <-- 554 5.7.1 Rejected for policy reasons (60131C64195DB13696C)


Ini karena memang smarthost smtp.iforte.net.id alias pmg.iforte.net.id [202.51.104.5] tidak memperkenankan relay dari mail.persada.id [103.150.114.155].
Coba ditanyakan ke ISP Iforte.net.id

Kalau memang tidak lagi diperkenankan relay maka non aktifkan fallback relay delivery di MDaemon.

http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/mdaemon/23.0/default-domain-and-servers_delivery.html




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