On 4/12/23 10:43, Ivan Leonardo wrote:
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Mohon tidak posting dengan top posting style di milis ini, selalu
gunakan bottom (interleaved) posting untuk memudahkan pembacaan.
https://blog.joelesler.net/2009/12/bottom-posting.html
The particular part to pay attention to is in RFC1855 --
"- If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context. This will make
sure readers understand when they start to read your response.
Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the
postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a
response to a message before seeing the original. Giving context
helps everyone. But do not include the entire original!"
http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/on_top
The fundamental source of poor email style is the practice of quoting
the entire message you’re replying to. If that’s what you do, then it
doesn’t matter whether you put your response at the top or bottom. In
fact, if you’re going to quote the entire message, top-posting probably
is better. But both are poor form.
Writing an email is like writing an article. Only quote the relevant
parts, interspersing your new remarks between the quoted passages. Don’t
quote anything at all from the original message if you don’t have to.
Does it take more time to edit the portions of quoted text included in
your reply? Yes. So does spell-checking and proofreading. It also takes
time to shower and brush your teeth each day.
Thunderbird sudah punya fitur itu built in, khususnya selected quote on
replies dan bottom replies.
Hanya bottom replies yang bisa memanfaatkan inline reply dalam diskusi,
top posting itu mirip SMS (Short Message Services) atau Messenger chat
hanya untuk 1 topik saja
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style)
https://www.lifewire.com/start-reply-on-top-thunderbird-1173162
http://www.ghidinelli.com/2010/11/08/faster-email-reply-partial-quote-thunderbird
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Pak ini saya kirimkan contoh Full Source Header dari contoh email yg
beda ya :
user Yanuar tidak pernah kirim email ke domain emirates.net.ae, sy sdh
cek di SMTP out tidak ada yg ke emirates.net.ae
Return-path: <yan...@pttdp.com>
Received: from ims-ms-daemon.as6.emirates.net.ae by as6.emirates.net.ae
(I&ES Mail Server 4.2) id <0rsy0075otfck...@as6.emirates.net.ae>; Tue,
11 Apr 2023 23:14:00 +0400 (GST)
Received: from dfimail1.emirates.net.ae (fmhimail01.emirates.net.ae)
by as6.emirates.net.ae (I&ES Mail Server 4.2)
with ESMTP id <0rsy00cwttfc2...@as6.emirates.net.ae> for ster...@eim.ae; Tue,
11 Apr 2023 23:14:00 +0400 (GST)
Received: from mail0.awechtlaw.cloudns.ph (mail0.pls.cloudns.ph [8.28.175.69])
by dfimail1.emirates.net.ae with ESMTP id 33BJDtxM032454-33BJDtxQ032454
(version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO)
for <ster...@eim.ae>; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:13:59 +0400
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 20:12:25 +0200
From: Support - EIM <yan...@pttdp.com>
Subject: Eim User Account Password Service. Tuesday, April 11, 2023
To: ster...@emirates.net.ae
Message-id: <202311042012250859ee0e13-42d814d...@pttdp.com>
Authentication-results: dfimail1.emirates.net.ae; spf=fail
(emirates.net.ae:
8.28.175.69 is not permitted sender for domain of yan...@pttdp.com)
smtp.mailfrom=yan...@pttdp.com
Mail domain @pttdp.com digunakan oleh orang lain yang tidak berhak
karena protocol antispoofing DMARC policy nya memang membolehkan (dipalsu).
$ host -t txt _dmarc.pttdp.com
_DMARC.pttdp.com descriptive text "v=DMARC1; p=none; pct=100;
rua=mailto:postmas...@pttdp.com";
Return-path: <>
Authentication-Results: webmail.pttdp.com;
iprev=pass policy.iprev=154.52.16.131 (MAIL )
Received: from pttdp-com-1.fortimailcloud.com [(154.52.16.131)] by webmail.pttdp.com (117.102.88.187)
with ESMTPS id md50000246569.msg; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 02:13:09 +0700
X-Spam-Processed: webmail.pttdp.com, Wed, 12 Apr 2023 02:13:09 +0700
(not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source)
X-MDRemoteIP: 154.52.16.131
X-MDHelo: pttdp-com-1.fortimailcloud.com
X-MDArrival-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 02:13:09 +0700
X-Rcpt-To: yan...@pttdp.com
X-MDRcpt-To: yan...@pttdp.com
X-Return-Path:
X-Envelope-From:
X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: yan...@pttdp.com
Mail ini salah arah dan diterima karena tidak mengaktifkan anti
backscatter BATV (Bounce Address Tag Validation).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounce_Address_Tag_Validation
http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/mdaemon/23.0/security--backscatter_protection_dialog.html
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syafril
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