We follow the Medicare guidelines across the board.  If there is a
guideline for another payer, we typically take care of that on the
back-end.  We use the LOA function when a patient leaves the ARU, and if
they do not return within the allotted time frame for the interrupted
stay, the LOA is undone and the patient is retroactively discharged.  If
the patient returns within that time frame, we return them from LOA and
resume documenting and charging on the original account.

 

(At least that is the way we have it set up...not always perfect!)

 

Stephanie Alford

MIS Project Coordinator

Sid Peterson Memorial Hospital

Kerrville, Texas

830-258-7572

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Jackie Welch
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 1:56 PM
To: Valerie A. Holdener; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Cc: Carolyn A. Masterson; Kathy Stephens
Subject: [MEDITECH-L] RE: IRF Interrupted Stay

 

This is timely. I have a meeting scheduled this week to discuss the
issues of inpatient rehab patients who may have to be transferred to ICU
or another acute care unit. (It always is confusing and frequently
handled incorrectly.) Too much of how you need to handle this is based
upon third party payer, and no staff nurse should need to know this
information. The nurse' s priority needs to be the patient being
transferred.  

 

My recommendation is going to be that Rehab should ALWAYS discharge the
patient, then register as a new admit to an acute unit.  Upon discharge
from the acute care unit, if the patient is making a scheduled return to
Rehab, then a case manager should have the time to determine if  the
original account number should be resumed. If so, then the registration
staff will have to UNDO that original Rehab discharge, change to LOA or
whatever for the days on the acute unit, and the documentation resume on
this original number. Otherwise, a new number will be issued. 

That still seems way too complicated for staff to manage well.

 

Perhaps the best idea is to have clean cut admits and discharges for
each of these now three different visits.  (REHAB/ACUTE/REHAB) Then, the
billing and insurance folks can manage on the back end.  Again, I don't
think the staff nurse caring for the patient should be burdened with
making these decisions.  A clear cut process needs to be in place. 

 

I'll let you know if we determine a magic solution after our meeting. 

 

Jackie Welch RN BSN

Clinical Systems Manager

Information Systems

Great River Health Systems

1221 South Gear Avenue

West Burlington, Iowa 52655

319.768.4417

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

http://www.greatrivermedical.org/ <http://www.greatrivermedical.org/> 

 

 

 

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Valerie A. Holdener
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:49 PM
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
        Cc: Kathy Stephens; Carolyn A. Masterson
        Subject: IRF Interrupted Stay

        We have a Inpatient Rehab Facility were recently a patient was
in the IRF then transferred to our medical floor for one day and then
returned to the IRF.  According to Medicare we can bill for this
"interrupted stay," as we can be reimbursed; however, we're not sure how
to process it.  Do we place the account in a "leave of absent status" or
take it back to a "Pre" status and then when they come back we remove
the "leave of absence" or "Pre" and place the patient back in on the
same Account Number, stopping the day count for the dates they were out
of the IRF?  Does anyone have any ideas or policies on how this works?

         

        Thanks,

        Valerie

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