HTML5 = W3C in this context -----Original Message----- From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:06 PM To: meego-dev Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] OMTP Bondi - any plans yet?
Hello, Nobody has W3C into account? (even when they are getting input from Nokia, BONDI, operators, browser developers,...) http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/ That's the way! 2010/4/18 Nils Faerber <nils.faer...@kernelconcepts.de>: > Rogers, Rick schrieb: >> Nils, > Hi Rick! > >> BONDI, JIL and WAC (add >> http://www.wholesaleappcommunity.com/docs/whitepaper.pdf to your >> list) > > Ah, didn't know JIl and WAC yet, thanks ;) > >> all converge around web applications written to HTML5, with >> extensions to support handset features that are beyond HTML5. I don't >> know of anyone working on BONDI for MeeGo, but would be very >> interested in learning anything you come across. I think you're >> right, it wouldn't be that hard - maybe WAC is the place to focus >> moving forward? I know the > > I had a brief look at all three again, I started with WAC and stumbled > accross an issue - I think... the governance. So I checked that again > with all three. > > What I do not like about WAC is that it is 100% operator focussed and > the name of the project makes IMHO their intention pretty clear > "Wholesale Application" - they are only interested in creating a broad > application market. > > While this is of course one of the valid goals it should not be the > only one. As a developer I miss the "level of invention" here. The > governance of WAC though suggests that selling applications is *the* > driving factor for the project and to the few major players in it: > There are a few core operators that build the board of directors and > new (operator) members can only get a non-voting visitor seat in the > board. No mention of other possibly parties (like vendors or makers) > and especially not mention of third party developers e.g. from the open > source. > > This sounds pretty limited - sounds like a pretty narrow minded club > to me so I would personally not like to pursue that road. Also from > technology standpoint it seems to me that they are only up to taking > up existing bits and specify a (sub-)set they want to support in WAC. > It does not seem that they want to actually do much own development. > > JIL is similar, only members are China Mobile, SoftBank Mobile, > Verizon Wireless, and Vodafone, 100% operator driven again. But they > are up to do own development and want to provide an SDK - well... > > In contrast to those two OMTP is a quite larger organisation, current > OMTP members: > http://www.omtp.org/Membership.aspx > and Bondi seems to be pretty open, it is Apache licensed and announced > as an open source project which at least suggests that open source > developers can take some part in it. > > I should probably note that I am not affiliated with OMTP nor Bondi ;) > >> folks at Aplix and ACCESS were involved with the OMTP reference >> implementation of BONDI. > > Yes, since they are LiMo foundation members (as is Wind River) and > LiMo seems to go away from native applications towards Web2.0 someone > had to do the job ;) > >> Rick Rogers >> Wind River > Cheers > nils > > -- > kernel concepts GbR Tel: +49-271-771091-12 Sieghuetter Hauptweg > 48 Fax: +49-271-771091-19 > D-57072 Siegen Mob: +49-176-21024535 > http://www.kernelconcepts.de > _______________________________________________ > MeeGo-dev mailing list > MeeGo-dev@meego.com > http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev > -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es _______________________________________________ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev _______________________________________________ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev
