Dear Steven,

sorry for taking up this topic again, but I do not get sensible results when 
putting in Meep the effective index as refractive index. In want to reduce a 3D 
waveguide into 2D without resorting to too computing intensive 3D simulations. 
The point is that it is a step-index structure, i.e. strictly neither 
"homogeneous" nor with a given single "refractive index", since it is a rib 
waveguide with a substrate a core and a cladding with different thicknesses and 
refractive indexes. I calculated the effective index of the structure taking 
this also as the effective index for the reduced 2D homogeneous waveguide 
(hoping this will still be a reasonable approximation, is it?) Now, if in Meep 
the scalar quantity labeled as "refractive index" is the group-phase index of 
the dispersionless medium (ng), then I assume that this can not be equated with 
the effective index (neff), per definition. As far as I know one way to get the 
former from the latter is to use the
 relation: ng=neff -Lambda*(dneff(Lambda)/dLambda)
 (where the derivative is not a material but a modal dispersion, it exists also 
in dispersionless media). I'm inclined to say that in doing these 3D-2D 
reduction it is the calculated ng one must set in the Meep code, not neff.. If 
so, please confirm just to be sure. If not, I would like to understand why not 
and how to correctly handle the conversion of a (multiple-)refractive indexed 
3D structure into a 2D simulation.

Best, Andreas.

Quoting "Steven G. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Andreas Francke wrote:
>> How should be the refractive index (or epsilon (* n n))) one sets in
>> Meep be considered? The effective index, the group index, the phase
>> index, or else?
>
> It's the refractive index, period.  All of the other things you
> mention are properties of wave propagation and depend on the geometry.
>
> If you have a homogeneous medium with a
 frequency-independent index n,
> then the group-velocity index and the phase-velocity index are all the
> same thing.  "Effective index" means different things in different
> contexts, but in any context and with any definition, the effective
> index of a homogeneous dispersionless medium is just the refractive
> index, too.
>
> Steven


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