Hi Serge,

Yes it is possible, just use the second formula in my email...

I don't think integrating in MEEP is necessary... I'm not sure, but I think 
output-dpwr already gives you the average power, IF you use complex fields

The following thread seems to confirm this:
http://osdir.com/ml/science.electromagnetism.meep.general/2006-05/msg00010.html

Best regards,

Milan


-----Original Message-----
From: Serge Solntsev [mailto:suns...@gmail.com] 
Sent: donderdag 14 oktober 2010 17:04
To: Marell, M.J.H.
Subject: Re: [Meep-discuss] How to find average energy density?

Hi Milan,

Thank you for the reference. Is it possible also to calculate abs for
non-dispersive materials using complex eps(w)?

I use complex fields because I use dispersive materials.

Yes, may be somebody can say how to integrate over time in meep or to
find a maximum over a period.

sincerely yours,
Serge Solntsev

E-mail:  suns...@gmail.com, s.solnt...@tudelft.nl
Skype: SunSerg



On 14 October 2010 16:51, Marell, M.J.H. <m.j.h.mar...@tue.nl> wrote:
> Maybe, for this to be correct (for this to actually be the average) you need 
> to set the use-complex-fields? parameter to TRUE.
> Let's see if you get more replies
>
> Best regards,
>
> Milan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meep-discuss-boun...@ab-initio.mit.edu 
> [mailto:meep-discuss-boun...@ab-initio.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Marell, M.J.H.
> Sent: donderdag 14 oktober 2010 16:41
> To: Serge Solntsev
> Cc: meep-discuss@ab-initio.mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [Meep-discuss] How to find average energy density?
>
> Hi Serge,
>
> I'm working on a similar problem, I have a resonant cavity...
> What I do is, I excite the cavity with a pulse and wait for the fields to 
> settle down.
> As soon as the fields have settled down, I know extract Q factor of my cavity 
> plus the |E|^2 field distribution.
>
> R. Loudon's paper back in the 70s 
> (http://iopscience.iop.org/0022-3689/3/3/008) states that the average energy 
> (W) in a material is equal to:
>
> W= (epsilon_0 / 2) * (n^2 + 2*omega*n*k/gamma) * |E|^2  (for dispersive media)
>
> or
>
> W= (epsilon_0 / 2) * n^2 * |E|^2                                        (for 
> non-dispersive media)
>
> The latter is the same as output-dpwr on the MEEP website, as far as I can 
> tell...
>
> Best regards,
>
> Milan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meep-discuss-boun...@ab-initio.mit.edu 
> [mailto:meep-discuss-boun...@ab-initio.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Serge Solntsev
> Sent: donderdag 14 oktober 2010 11:02
> To: meep-discuss@ab-initio.mit.edu
> Subject: [Meep-discuss] How to find average energy density?
>
> Dear MEEP users and Dr. Johnson,
>
> I'm trying to calculate absorption in the device. I start simulation with CW
> source, wait for a while... this is OK.
> Then I output electric-field energy density using (output-dpwr). Using
> average energy I can calculate the absorption.
> But as far as I understood I got momentary values of the energy from
> (output-dpwr).
>
> So my question is:     How to find average (or maximum) of the energy for
> certain points of the device?
>
> I would really appreciate your help,
>
> Serge Solntsev,
> TU Delft
>
>
>
>
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