I completely agree accounts and logins are a big ugly barrier for uptake. We have been doing work in a similar direction, but it's not nearly as clever... basically we're planning on doing the front page as a fully working demo (with sort of tutorial built in) and if you configure something you like you can create an account to save it...

I think this is a very cool idea... An interesting extension of this would be something like generating a URL that you can hand out to a friend that gives them the right to collaborate on your jug, but then also revoke if you feel like it. No login or signup for them either...

- Luke



On Jun 26, 2008, at 4:41 PM, Ian Bicking wrote:

Another thought on the no-login-thing:

You could just register an unconfirmed email address with your persistent session ID. Then if you don't have the session ID you can request it by entering an email address. If you accidentally post your secret URL (with the embedded ID) then you could support changing the ID with email verification.

For something like Melkjug, a more public mode might be nice too, as session IDs are very personal. But I think that would just be something like "publish this jug" which would give it a URL like http://melkjug.com/jugs/my-jug , and then all the links would be under that, and it would be orthogonal to the private session ID from that point on. But from there you could still support certain operations via session ID again (where an administrator session ID is attached to the public jug). All of which is really very much like a login, but without logging in, which I think for something like Melkjug could be big advantage in uptake. It's also reasonably translatable to Open ID at some later date, in some ways more easily than a typical user account system.

 Ian

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