On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Rolando Penate wrote:
On Aug 14, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Randall Leeds wrote:
Rollie, I love the cloud format. Some thought needs to go into how
we can similarly ease the pain of having tons of feeds.
I was thinking we could give the feed list the same cloud treatment.
Perhaps try some other treatments as well. You have any suggestions?
I'm still not totally sure that a cloud format is the best fit for the
filter list. The expectations I have when presented with a tag cloud
are that I can click any of the links to see a list of items matching
that tag - the parallel here would be that clicking any of the filters
in the cloud would update the feed to just show feed items matching
that filter. That feels a little awkward to me, but maybe that's a use
case we want to support. I'd defer to Luke on how labor-intensive
something like that would be to add.
I think that we may want to consider having the list of feeds not
shown on the reader pages by default. It would lose us the ability to
instantly turn feeds into filters, but would free up a ton of real
estate in that sidebar.
I know we've already committed to implementing some changes, and I
don't mean to press that anything I say here should happen right
now. Maybe once things stabilize. I'm just trying to raise
interesting issues before I forget them and I'll consolidate
whatever discussion comes out into real trac issues.
Understandable, I just like to reiterate that once in a while to
slow the inexorable push for scope creep. :)
To revisit my issues with Share button, how do we feel about
expanding the share button on mouse over? It keeps clutter AND
click count low.
Seems worth a shot. It's my understanding that Chris Patterson is
working on some alternatives.
I've just committed the current version (with mouseover behavior) -
check out r1353.
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Rolando Penate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
We have a first round of UI changes that Luke has committed to and
we're currently implementing. I think these changes are great and
am pleased to see them underway. That, however, doesn't mean they
are perfect and we've been throwing around some ideas for future
iterations.
One of the ones that Luke asked us to post to the development list
is one for a filter cloud. It was an idea that I threw out in
response to needing a very compact summary view of the filters and
feeds when presented with a long list. Basically, you'd just have
the filter names in a comma-separated list, color-coded like in the
article meta (blue for tags, yellow for authors, orange for feeds,
etc), maybe sized based on how they are weighted. It basically
assumes our audience is somewhat as comfortable with stuff like
that as delicious users are.
I gave it a very quick pass for filters:
http://img.skitch.com/20080814-nu3jqymq45dreb2rrtmxes5tbc.png
Compare it with: http://img.skitch.com/20080813-n799g3kmkpsrbdhcp9t27qg3au.png
Just imagine that inside of 'Hide/Show' button there is a 'List/
Cloud' button.
—R
On Aug 14, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Randall Leeds wrote:
Seems time is ripe (maybe over ripe) for ui discussion, so I'll
drop in two more.
Group feeds into folders.
For me the added value of melkjug boils down to the ability to
subscribe to more sources without more headache. We need a design
that allows 100+ feeds without getting messy.
Maybe the side bar should scroll separately from the article list?
Access to your filters from anywhere on the page sounds like a
good idea.
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Randall Leeds
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a few UI notes I thought I'd drop in here:
1) I know I thought it was slick at first, but I'm reversing my
opinion. Is there a reason the green "share" button isn't expanded
by default? Do we really need it collapsed if we only have a few
options for how to share it? I suppose it makes sharing via e-mail
(better for us because we get to stick in a melkjug.org link) more
prominent, but it's a usability problem possibly to always have to
click twice.
2) Can we pop up the delicious share link on the page rather than
opening a new page? If there were some way to have it
automatically disappear after the user submits the form that would
be ultra hot. Not sure this is possible.
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Luke Tucker
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
FYI,
The trunk of the melkjug package is undergoing heavy changes as we
rework the UI. Please expect some large fluctuations in the look
and functionality of things for the time being. I recommend using
an earlier release or tag for the time being if you need a stable
UI.
- Luke
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