On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 15:41, Luke Tucker <[email protected]> wrote:

> As for integrating internal commenting... I think it deserves some thought.
>  Part of me thinks it would be strange to sort of tear any of the
> conversation away from the blog itself, but if I think in the
> melkjug-as-planet sort of product it would be... kind of interesting, ie
> planetdev.openplans.org with the conversation of planetdev readers
> collected around it.  I feel like there may be some way of saying to a blog
> hey there's a side conversation happening at this other site...  but not
> very well supported.  Any wordpress gurus know? What goes on with this sort
> of stuff in the blog-network sort of world?


There is and it's called Trackback. If we ping the trackback URL then the
blog can automatically link back to a page on Melkjug that has comments
people have left there.

However, this conversation has made me think through these ideas a little
more and I've decided what we're looking at are two separate ideas.

Idea 1:
I referred to this idea as commenting 'on Melkjug'. I think the use of the
verb 'comment' here though has confused it with the notion of commenting 'on
the post'. Indeed, I think I was confused myself.

Leaving comments on the original feed is important and clean and we should
rethink this first idea as a "share on Melkjug with note" function which has
analogy in Google Reader. (Whether these could be threaded is a fun, but
tangential issue.) Seeing which other Melk-people shared an article I'm
reading and what they said would be fun and could help people identify other
users to follow. It should not subsume the feed's native comment support.

Idea 2:
Scrape comments off the original post to display (read-only) on Melkjug.

I suspect it'd be difficult to widely support commenting 'on a post' from
Melkjug and I think we should *not* do this. In the case of Disqus people
need to log into Disqus to post their comments. We should not try to tackle
this sort of integration. Instead, we can just scrape out the comments to
display them on Melkjug for popular platforms and this would be sufficient
for reading. Adding the 'New Comments' filter Luke suggested would be
sufficient for basic conversation tracking.

Disqus users could continue to track through Disqus after having opened the
original post, logged into Disqus, and posted their comment. 'Share with
note on Melkjug' would be good for community building and personal
notetaking, but entirely separate from the dialogue of comments on the post
itself.

On the topic of Disqus:
A first look at Disqus makes me think that from Melkjug's point of view this
is just a different format of comment to pick up. In other words, where we
might normally see a wordpress blog and pick up its comments, we'll see a
Disqus-enabled blog and we'll need to pick up the Disqus thread. If we did
implement something like a 'New Comments' filter, this would be an
independent and primitive way for Melkjug users to track a dialogue,
irrespective of Disqus integration on the feed in question.

-Randall

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