Brendan,
The SR20DET doesn't clash in a right hand drive 1600, the fitting kit you
mention is AUD$900 (~USD$450) and there is a SR20 costing done by Terry Rudd
from this list attached to an email I sent out a couple of days ago.
I certainly agree with the comment about parts availability and cost, even
though we can source parts directly from Nissan this is hugely expensive (eg
a new crank angle sensor is AUD$900!) However, New Zealand is also known as
the land of cheap imports, so parts would be easier to find there.
"I think any prospective 510 Turbo convertors will get a bit of an idea from
this and you can see why the L series is still very popular and will more
than likely always continue to be so and there's nothing wrong with that
(IMHO). " (thats Terry's comment)
And I agree :)
- Tom
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Parrott
Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2001 6:56 PM
To: Gary Savage
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Subject: Re: L20B TURBO v SR20DET
First, the L-series bolts in, while the SR20DET does not. That saves quite a
bit in fabrication and is a big plus in the time factor. And of course,
it's not just an issue of oil pan, mounts , crossmember and swaybar. The
steering interference with the exhaust manifold is another hurdle. The
SR20DET is a bitch of a swap if the number of incomplete projects is any
indicator. I think most of the finished swaps have been completed with a
kit. That adds about 1G to the price. Another problem with this engine in
the States is the availability of parts. Gaskets, water pump, starter and
who knows what else are very specific to this engine and aren't available.
No problem if you putt around town, but driving 800 miles to Shasta? NAPA
isn't going to have your water pump or starter. That's why I eliminated this
engine from my list.
As far as JY parts, keep in mind that your engine, my engine and any SR20DET
available here is a junkyard engine. On the other hand, Dan Hall (you may
have seen his 1200 screaming at 9K at PIR) will build a balanced and
blueprinted L-series short-block for around $1200-1500 as I recall. Turbo
manifolds are available in NZ. Open chamber head, turbo grind cam, O-rings.
Who needs to program? Turbo Tom whomped his competition with a Holley 600.
Jump to EFI later, but you certainly don't have to start with it.
Yes, I agree it needs to be a quality project throughout, but patience,
common sense and NO shortcuts could make quite a screamer.
Noisy and not as smooth? Sounding like a BMW owner.;-) I like my 510s noisy.
I don't want to repeat the whole schpeel again, but I can summarize the
thought by saying the L is a great engine. Arguably one of the best designs
made. Tough as nails and it did Brock/Morton quite nicely. A gnarly L can
make you poop your pants as it hurls a 510 around. Build a large L to take a
ton of boost and you would have one very fast, fun ride while doing
something different. And of course the parts are available here.
I don't underestimate what the SR20DET can do and I'd certainly love to have
one if I could easily get parts for it. Most of these importers are bringing
them here with "complete' harnesses, but they're missing crucial parts.
There are ways to get around it, but I still don't like the idea of buying
engines out of someones garage in LA. I think Dave's price of $1500? is
still a tad low. They seemed to float around $2000-2500 when I was looking.
A buyer also should be aware whether the SR is coming directly from Japan or
did it do a few years stint in Australia after leaving Japan? That could
really rack up the mileage and wear.
The phantom car is doing its job of keeping me occupied. It's not a phantom
to the neighbors. It's a source of irritating late-night noise.
b
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From: Gary Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: February 24, 2001 7:49:06 PM GMT
Subject: Re: L20B TURBO v SR20DET
Brendan wrote:
> >I'm assuming that you are willing to spend more money on the motor than
> the car
> >is practically worth, right? I would guess that $5000 might get you that
> motor,
> >by the time you get all the trick stuff to make it do that. It's hard to
> beat
> >new technology! ;-)
>
> ..except that's the full-install price of an SR20DET too according to the
> project owners I've spoken too. Sometimes it's fun to carve your own
path.:-)
Of course, the key word is MIGHT. Then you have to spend lots of time
trying to
program the thing to work right, unlike the SR20DET w/ tons of "plug & play"
options. L-series are still more noisy and not as smooth, probably due to
that
technology thing, again. ;-) It also depends if you are talking about
doing it
right, or buying a ton of junkyard parts to build this motor. If it's not
done
right, it won't last long, which means more HP equals even more money! I
hate
that part! So, Brendan, when is this phantom car of yours going to be done?
--
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