Yes but there is something about V8's especially when they can breath well
they make your skin crawl, my old man had a 308 in a vc wagon with yella
terra heads.  would only do 0-100 in 7.9 but on the freeway was bloody
awesome our friends had a vl turbo wagon and could match the bent 8 upto
100-110 but after that the v8 would just pull away, once a turbo volvo with
som japanese fellows tried to stir us up on the freeway and had no chance
and you could load it up  and it would hardly notice the four people and the
boodt full of camping gear and the trailer.  Don't get me wrong I love me
turbo fours and my own l20 (so does dad by the way ;) )  But theres just
something about those eights.  Sorry for rambling.
Ryan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: steven.taylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 5:48 am
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Boost vs Cubic inches
> 
> If you can find me a pushrod V8 that runs low 13's, can be driven to and
> from
> work each day, actually goes round corners and can get to Adelaide without
> a
> hickup on $100 dollars petrol - i might change my mind - maybe......
> Steve.
> p.s i still reserve the right to think that harry guy is a peanut:) hehehe
> geez
> im a stirrer!
> 
> Duncan Shillito wrote:
> 
> > as a former stock pushrod V8 owner, i agree james.........
> >
> > i was only trying to help suggest that for N/A street cars - cid is very
> > important, that's half the reason why everyone throws an L20B into a 510
> > instead of retaining the 1600.
> >
> > as for harry firth - if you don't know who he is - do some research.
> former
> > bathurst winner, founder of the holden dealer team, mentor of peter
> > brock................ he probably knew a thing or two about cars !!!!
> >
> > with today's technology, boost rules !!!!!
> >
> > cheers,
> > dunc.
> >
> > >From: James Marmont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches
> > >Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:17:50 +1100
> > >
> > >i am well aware of this
> > >but another thing to remember is that v8s use 1950s technology. they
> still
> > >use push rods for fucks sake! if a manufacturer made a well balanced 3
> > >liter v8, using quad cams and 4 or 5 valves per cylinder, that would
> change
> > >the whole equation and put out the same if not more power. torque may
> be
> > >down a bit, but nothing forced induction cant fix!!!
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: James Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 2:52 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Boost vs Cubic inches
> > >
> > >
> > >Gentlemen,
> > >
> > >I enjoy seeing a L20B beat a V8 off the lights as much as anyone else
> but
> > >you must remember we are talking a highly modified L20B vs a fairly
> stock
> > >V8.  Its all about how much air and fuel you can get into an engine,
> and a
> > >larger motor will always have the cability to intake more air and fuel.
> A
> > >twin turbo RB26 can put out 1000hp but a equaly worked blown V8 will
> put
> > >out
> > >10,000hp.  There is a reason why the quickest cars in the world run the
> 1/4
> > >with blown big block V8s.
> > >
> > >Although as you know your a lot more likey to be able to afford to
> drive a
> > >700 - 800hp turbo (both in building cost and in petrol) on the road
> than a
> > >10,000hp blown V8, blown V8s are BIG $$$ and use a LOT of fuel, I've
> heard
> > >of such cars using over a litre of AVGAS per km!
> > >
> > >Don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but a larger engine, worked
> equally,
> > >will aways produce more power.
> > >
> > >James Cox
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >OF COURSE THERE IS ITS CALLED BOOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >That Harry guy is obviously a peanut.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Duncan Shillito wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "there is no substitute for cubic inches"
> !!!!.................(harry
> > > >firth 1967).
> > > > >
> > >
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