Look forward to catching up then Pete. Cam CM510 www.sprite.com.au/cm510 ----- Original Message ----- From: "LIEBIG, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:55 AM Subject: RE: engineering 1600
> Should be over on 21st March. I'm bringing a carload of mates, so I'm afraid > I'll be bringing the big Commy :-( > > PL > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2002 9:56 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: engineering 1600 > > hehehehe.... > > Yeah, definately Pete, what dates will you be over? > > Riding or Driving? > > Cam > CM510 > www.sprite.com.au/cm510 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LIEBIG, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:11 AM > Subject: RE: engineering 1600 > > > > Yeah, no worries Cam. I'll just get that R200 fitted to make sure you > don't > > have any trouble. What boost level would you like? 14psi OK? > > > > PL :-) > > > > PS: I'll be over for the Superbikes at Phillip Island in March. Hope to > > catch up! > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2002 9:21 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: engineering 1600 > > > > Hey Pete, > > > > I think you better send your car over to me for a holiday and I'll get it > > engineered over here....promise I wont thrash it :)) > > > > Cam > > CM510 > > www.sprite.com.au/cm510 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "LIEBIG, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:35 AM > > Subject: RE: engineering 1600 > > > > > > > SA = VERY VERY HARD. And very very expensive. But not impossible. > > > > > > Justin, > > > > > > For an SR20DET it goes like this: You basically need to first apply to > > > Regency Park (same for any conversion). They then say, OK we'll "give it > > > further consideration" if you take it to an engineer with attention to > the > > > following points : - then there are around 2 pages of details that they > > > require. > > > > > > Basically the engineer does all the stuff that they do in the other > > states - > > > checks engine mounts, seat mounts, fuel system, brakes, suspension, > > > steering, unleaded filler neck, cat converter etc. Plus a torsional > > rigidity > > > test for the chassis. The trouble is Regency also want road tests for > > brakes > > > and handling. This means that the car needs to be taken to a track > > somewhere > > > and have the brakes tested according to their specs by the engineer. > They > > > also want a "lane change test" which basically involves setting out some > > > cones according to their specs and going through them at a certain > speed. > > > Unfortunately this all takes time and time is money. > > > > > > The chassis stiffness test is interesting. I've had one engineer explain > > how > > > he would do it by making a rig and weighting one side down and measuring > > the > > > twist etc. = $$$. Yet another guy simply explained the stiffness test > away > > > in a few lines without actually doing it to the car (I've seen the > > paperwork > > > - and the car is now fully approved!). The way it is worded the > "engineer > > > must be satisfied" that it is OK, then Regency are happy. I'll be going > > with > > > him! > > > > > > Once the engineer is happy he does a full report. Then you just take > this > > to > > > Regency and they do a basic rust/lights/seatbelts/engine number check > and > > I > > > think they run it up on their brake testing machine. This costs $$$ too, > > but > > > it's not much in the scheme of things. > > > > > > Any way you look at it you'll be up for $1200 or so depending on the > > > engineer you choose. > > > > > > If anyone knows a cheaper way out please let me know as I'm about to lay > > > down my hard earned... > > > > > > PL > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Justin Friedrichs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, 21 January 2002 11:49 > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > Subject: RE: engineering 1600 > > > > > > wOT about SA, you guys know how strict they are?? I would have thought > > they > > > would be easier than Vic or NSW?? > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Cam [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:39 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: engineering 1600 > > > > > > > > NSW = RTA = Very Hard > > > > > > > > Vic = Vic Roads = Very Easy > > > > > > > > Cam > > > > CM510 > > > > www.sprite.com.au/cm510 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "peter nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:52 AM > > > > Subject: Re: engineering 1600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > The engineer i went to here in Sydney wanted both cat and unleaded > > > > filler > > > > > neck, and mines a 71. WHAT DA? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Cam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Subject: Re: engineering 1600 > > > > > >Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:33:57 +1100 > > > > > > > > > > > >Standard filler nozzle, cause the car being 72 didn't have to run > > ULP. > > > > > > > > > > > >I could have run leaded fuel and no cat. > > > > > > > > > > > >Cam > > > > > >CM510 > > > > > >www.sprite.com.au/cm510 > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:15 AM > > > > > >Subject: RE: engineering 1600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Cam and Geordie and everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding requiring an unleaded fuel filler neck for a > > conversion - > > > > is > > > > > > > this just for the different size filler, or because a different > > > > rubber > > > > > >is > > > > > > > required for use with unleaded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Cam, which fuel filler nozzle did you use for your car? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris, From my experience, an engineer will inspect anything > > > > modified > > > > > >on > > > > > > > > your car which is different to factory issue for that model. > > Then > > > > he > > > > > >checks > > > > > > > > that it all complies with the ADR rules, ie pollution, safety, > > > > etc. > > > > If > > > > > > > > anything does not comply or is structurally unsafe, then he > will > > > > tell > > > > > >you to > > > > > > > > modify something another way and come back. If all is well > with > > > > his > > > > > > > > inspection, then he writes a report, takes your money and > hands > > > > you > > > > > >the > > > > > > > > report. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most engineers I spoke to were great blokes who were all too > > > > willing > > > > > >to > > > > > >help > > > > > > > > you out. Most of 'em are hoons like us who have 20 years of > > extra > > > > > >living > > > > > > > > under their belt and just want you to have a safe / roadworthy > > > > car, > > > > > >and > > > > > >to > > > > > > > > share their knowledge and hindsight with you for a fee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I put a SR20DET in a TRX and all I did was do the work I > thought > > I > > > > had > > > > > >to > > > > > > > > do, rung a few engineers and asked them what mods they > required, > > > > etc. > > > > > >The > > > > > > > > only things which were stipulated was that I have an unleaded > > fuel > > > > > >nozzle, > > > > > > > > and that after I get that, to go to the RTA and get a > pollution > > > > test > > > > > >done. > > > > > > > > Then I rung him up again once that was done, we spent about an > > > > hour > > > > > > > > together, I showed him all the things I did to change the car > > from > > > > > >NORMAL to > > > > > > > > what it is now, gave him the pollution report and the next day > > he > > > > gave > > > > > >me > > > > > > > > his engineer's report. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is absolutely nothing to worry about so long as > everything > > > > you > > > > > >do > > > > > > > > seems good to you, then chances are when inspection time > comes, > > > > it'll > > > > > >look > > > > > > > > good enough to the engineer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a nutshell, and as Cam said..Sortov... They are making an > > > > > >Engineer's > > > > > > > > Report, and that is all it is. A report of what things have > been > > > > > >modified on > > > > > > > > your car. All too simple! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Chris > > > > > >Simpson > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 11:07 PM > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: engineering 1600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA'ers? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does any one know how the sort of things that Cam has got > > > > engineered > > > > > >in > > > > > > > > Victoria compares to what you'd get away with in WA? > Obviously > > > > the > > > > > >ADR's > > > > > > > > are all the same, but it is often the interpretation of them > > that > > > > > >matters > > > > > > > > by the individual engineers and the pits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CM510 writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Greg, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like your 1600 is coming along well :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mine was engineered about 6 months ago, and as far as I know > > > > nothing > > > > > >has > > > > > > > > > changed since then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Engineered with; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No rear seats (or rear seat belts) > > > > > > > > > Half roll cage (that is padded) > > > > > > > > > 'Modified suspension, including performance springs and > > > > > >shock-absorbers' > > > > > > > > > (nothing more specific than this) > > > > > > > > > No heater core...but does retain the fan for windscreen > > > > demisting > > > > > > > > > Four point race harnesses > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The engineer made brief mention of the reversed bend > steering > > > > drag > > > > > >link > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > front cross member saying 'modified to the engineers > > > > satisfaction' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My car also has Fixed Back fiber glass front seats, no roof > > > > lining, > > > > > > > > carpet, > > > > > > > > > door trims or radio. No specific mention of these was made > in > > > > the > > > > > >report, > > > > > > > > > this may mean that either a) The engineer 'didn't see them' > > or > > > > b) > > > > > >they > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > legal and don't need to be mentioned. I did c) not say > > > > anything, > > > > so > > > > > >as > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > to stir the pot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been meaning to scan and post a copy on my web-site, > I > > > > > >*will* > > > > > >get > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > done soon :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Catcha soon, (if I can :)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s., a lot comes down to the particular engineer you use, I > > > > highly > > > > > > > > > recommend Geoff Watters. VERY fair and reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cam > > > > > > > > > CM510 > > > > > > > > > www.sprite.com.au/cm510 > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > To: Ozdat mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:08 PM > > > > > > > > > Subject: engineering 1600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey fellas, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who has done an engineered 1600 in Victoria recently? If > > you > > > > > >have, > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > you give me some guidelines as to what I can and can't do, > > and > > > > > >what > > > > > > > > probs > > > > > > > > > > you had. I don't want it to be a road driven car, but > want > > to > > > > > >drive > > > > > >it > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > and from track days, and the occasional Sunday cruise. It > > > > will > > > > be > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > sr20de, upgraded brakes (a setup that doesn't need mods - > > like > > > > > >some > > > > > >twin > > > > > > > > > > piston sumo's front, and some sort of disk combo for > rear), > > > > r180 > > > > > >diff, > > > > > > > > > fully > > > > > > > > > > stripped inside (basically set up purely for racing > > purposes) > > > > with > > > > > > > > racing > > > > > > > > > > seat, harness, for engineers I presume I have to have a > > > > passenger > > > > > >seat > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > seat belt (do I need to put in the rear seats?). Don't > want > > > > to > > > > > >have > > > > > >any > > > > > > > > > > trim, carpets and all the bull shit. Will be doing all > the > > > > wiring > > > > > > > > myself. > > > > > > > > > > Will try to make up/modify mounts, cross member and stuff > > > > myself. > > > > > >Also > > > > > > > > > roll > > > > > > > > > > cage... Also, when it comes to cutting out rust and > welding > > > > in > > > > > >new > > > > > > > > steel, > > > > > > > > > > do I need to pass this by an engineer, or do I just not > tell > > > > him > > > > I > > > > > >have > > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > it? One example of where I have to do this is the drivers > > > > floor, > > > > > >which > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > quite badly rusted (through in some places, like > accelerator > > > > > >mount), > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > will have to be totally replaced. Also other things like > > fuel > > > > > >supply, > > > > > > > > > pump > > > > > > > > > > will be mounted under the car basically, do I have to > retain > > a > > > > > >spare > > > > > > > > tyre > > > > > > > > > > wheel well... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any info would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: > http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
